Parkers Tan,
Obviously you don't know me and your painting me with a generic brush. I posted a thread called The Case for Theism.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-17548.html
Here is an excerpt.
Theism to me is a belief and an opinion, I don't claim it's a fact. It's an opinion regarding the most basic philosophical questions people have asked. Why is there a universe? Why is there something rather than nothing? How did our existence come about? And perhaps the most puzzling question, is our existence the result of planning and design or was it the result of happenstance?
There has never been a time I have argued in favor of theism that I didn't claim it is a belief an opinion. I have in fact entertained the notion I'm wrong on many occasions. In this very post I cited what I think is the best evidence in favor of atheism.
If I were an atheist (a real atheist that actually believes and claims God doesn’t exist) I would clearly state such a belief is an opinion. It’s what I think is true but acknowledge I’m not certain of it. That’s what an opinion is, a statement you have reason to believe is true but can’t be certain is true. I don’t know of any atheists claiming it’s a fact God doesn’t exist so it must be a belief that God doesn’t exist so why the animosity towards others who have a difference of opinion? If I ran an atheist board I would welcome theists to the board, respect their difference of opinion but share the facts and evidence I believe challenges that belief.
-There is no direct evidence a Creator caused the universe.
-The laws of physics over vast periods of time appear to have caused all the things we observe including our own existence.
-Much of the universe appears to be chaotic and unguided.
-Evolution appears to account for how living things developed on going complexity.
Therefore was I an atheist I would argue from those facts God doesn’t exist which ironically means I’m making a better argument than most atheists make. I wouldn't antagonize anyone, bash them over the head, question their sanity, just make the case and let it go at that.
Do you think I'd offer what I think are the strongest arguments in favor of atheism if I didn't think I could be wrong?
That said I'm glad you'd be happy to explain it to me and defend its explanatory power. Few atheists have been willing, most resort to its a lack of belief tactic.
Quote:I will be happy to explain it to you, and defend its explanatory power; but the fact is, it is a hypothesis, and the difference between an atheist proposing a mechanistic beginning (such as myself) and a theist such as yourself is that while I'm happy to admit I might be wrong, under no circumstances are you permitted to entertain that thought by your own dogma. That is the result of you fetishizing faith instead of knowledge.
Obviously you don't know me and your painting me with a generic brush. I posted a thread called The Case for Theism.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-17548.html
Here is an excerpt.
Theism to me is a belief and an opinion, I don't claim it's a fact. It's an opinion regarding the most basic philosophical questions people have asked. Why is there a universe? Why is there something rather than nothing? How did our existence come about? And perhaps the most puzzling question, is our existence the result of planning and design or was it the result of happenstance?
There has never been a time I have argued in favor of theism that I didn't claim it is a belief an opinion. I have in fact entertained the notion I'm wrong on many occasions. In this very post I cited what I think is the best evidence in favor of atheism.
If I were an atheist (a real atheist that actually believes and claims God doesn’t exist) I would clearly state such a belief is an opinion. It’s what I think is true but acknowledge I’m not certain of it. That’s what an opinion is, a statement you have reason to believe is true but can’t be certain is true. I don’t know of any atheists claiming it’s a fact God doesn’t exist so it must be a belief that God doesn’t exist so why the animosity towards others who have a difference of opinion? If I ran an atheist board I would welcome theists to the board, respect their difference of opinion but share the facts and evidence I believe challenges that belief.
-There is no direct evidence a Creator caused the universe.
-The laws of physics over vast periods of time appear to have caused all the things we observe including our own existence.
-Much of the universe appears to be chaotic and unguided.
-Evolution appears to account for how living things developed on going complexity.
Therefore was I an atheist I would argue from those facts God doesn’t exist which ironically means I’m making a better argument than most atheists make. I wouldn't antagonize anyone, bash them over the head, question their sanity, just make the case and let it go at that.
Do you think I'd offer what I think are the strongest arguments in favor of atheism if I didn't think I could be wrong?
That said I'm glad you'd be happy to explain it to me and defend its explanatory power. Few atheists have been willing, most resort to its a lack of belief tactic.
