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Poll: Should the Palestinians have an independent state?
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Yes, the Palestinians should have an independent state.
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No, the Palestinians should not have a state but live under the current condition(s).
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No, the state of Israel should make Palestinians co-equal citizens within Israel therefore joining the PA areas with Israel.
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Should the Palestinians have an independent state?
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RE: Should the Palestinians have an independent state?
(March 20, 2015 at 1:33 pm)Nestor Wrote: Palestinians should be a state but they should first locate some actual leaders who can deliver sustained peace and order.

Israel should not consider itself a Jewish state, as it only continues to feed tribal tensions, and it should end the apartheid immediately.

Palastinians had leaders, but Isreal managed to promote fractionalism and discredit any leading personality within palastinians as a way of making palastinian state nonviable.

Isreal can't exist without being a Jewish state, which is why it should never have been allowed to be brought into existence after WWII at all.

The west cavalierly assumed it could always call the shots in the middle-east and stuff its own conveniences and fetishes down arab throats. It didn't count on the fact that calendar read 1948, not 1878. If the west had successfully inserted an Jewish state into Ottoman Turkish territory in 1878, before any significant glimmer of Arab nationalism and anti-colonialism had menifested themselves, arabs could well have come to accept a Jewish state in its midst.

But the west ham handedly inserted a Jewish state into arab lands at the height of Arab nationalism, when western colonialism itself was in its dying days, so there was no real prospect serious prospect Isreal would be accepted. Without being accepted, Isreal will likely eventually be overthrown. While it was understandable for Jews to jump at the chance, it was in the long term probably a stupid thing for Jews to do to take the offer of the Jewish state amidst rising arab nationalism.
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RE: Should the Palestinians have an independent state? - by Anomalocaris - March 20, 2015 at 1:42 pm

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