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Poll: Should the Palestinians have an independent state?
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Yes, the Palestinians should have an independent state.
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No, the Palestinians should not have a state but live under the current condition(s).
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No, the state of Israel should make Palestinians co-equal citizens within Israel therefore joining the PA areas with Israel.
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Should the Palestinians have an independent state?
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RE: Should the Palestinians have an independent state?
(March 20, 2015 at 9:13 am)professor Wrote: The Palestinians already have a state, the same people have the country of Jordan.
But then, the Islamist war makers would have to fold up their tent and go home.
So the charade continues.
The Muslims do not want a state beside the Jewish one.
They were given Gaza and destroyed anything productive there, and use it to build bombs and launch missiles.
How many times do they need to tell you, they want one INSTEAD of the Jewish one.
Hell will freeze over first.

Why do you always fall for the trap? Your Christian Millennialistic non-sense is showing.

Of course, both sides have problems in which I have mentioned previously ( That is evidence that any 'religion' is not the solution, in the long run, for the human race ). The whole point of having a new reconstruction of the state of Israel is to promote a 'civil society' something which the GOP has missed in their calculations. The GOP of the U.S. are hypocrites. The recent episode concerning Netanyahu has exposed this hypocrisy and political opportunistic overtures.

There are no evidence, in the federalist papers and anti-federalist papers, of any attachment to religious 'destiny' rather these mentioned documents stuck to the idea of civil society (& experiment). Plus, there were no explicit reference of being loyal to Israel (or the Jewish people) within those mentioned documents. I would go as far to say that the American founding fathers had established thoughts, through words and deeds, that America replaced Israel (Replacement Theology).

Nevertheless, the rights of any people to defend themselves should not be negated. The state of Israel and its Jewish people have all the rights to defend themselves. However, they should adopt some kind of reasonable political strategy to reduce and diminish the other 'hostile' political entities in the region. Hence, the amazement I have seeing no one from either the GOP or the democratic camp in exporting the idea of a 'civil societal order' within the Israeli state. The very state we support with BILLIONS of dollars!

As for telling whole populations to move to Jordan is non-sense. What happens when this action creates the impetus for Pan-Jewish design in the region? For example; to tell Lebanese, Syrians, and Iraqis to leave their lands because Israel wants to create some Pan-Jewish land. Therefore, the previous notion is ridiculous !!! Just like the mentioned people, the Palestinians have much of a claim to the very soil Jewish people are claiming over. The history is filled with Jewish and non-Jewish people sharing the same soil and claims going back and forth. Actually, these changes were done under BARBARIC claims (through violence) rather than the MODERN methods of International Law and justice. International Law (& Justice) is something solidified after the event of WWII.

SO, we want to reverse these historical development to the laws of BARBARIC actions??? You know today nuclear weapons exist and it's not like the world of WWI and WWII.

Knowing that the state of Israel was formed through bloodshed (wordings from anti-Zionist Jews), the state of Israel could still recover from such events by simply making Palestinians Israeli citizens but then create a type of system which would still preserve the existence of the Jewish people. The previous action would diminish the strategy of the Iranian state and other Islamic groups within the region who could later recruit the Palestinian society to fight for them. Hence, ending in nuclear warfare exchange.

But wait, that's exactly what your Christian preachers and millennialists like yourself would want...a nuclear holocaust of humanity so it could fulfill your Biblical claims. I bet you that Jesus will NOT return. And I also foresee that when Jesus will not return some people in your camp will reinterpret it and say Jesus will return with other conditions.
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RE: Should the Palestinians have an independent state? - by CristW - March 20, 2015 at 2:57 pm

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