(March 21, 2015 at 5:02 pm)Drew_2013 Wrote: Snakeoil
Quote:You claim you were making a joke. So, does that mean you finally recognize there is a difference between claiming there is no gawd and claiming not to believe in one? So far, I've seen no evidence that you understand the point.
Still not sure what you mean by gawd...is that just a disparaging way you spell it or do you mean something else.
Whether there is a difference depends on whether the person who states there is no God is making a fact claim or just stating an opinion. If an opinion built into that is the possibility they are wrong and God may in fact exist. If you claim not to believe in the existence of God it would be presumably because you don't believe God exists. I'm pretty confident no one claims to not believe in God yet thinks God does exist.
Ok, then. Let's try this one more time.
I do not believe in any god(s), at all, in any way. Do I know that there are none? No. Therefore I do not claim there is no god.
With me so far?!?
Can someone believe there is no god? Certainly. That person still falls under the umbrella of atheism even. However, that is not the majority belief.
Maybe this will help:
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I'm an agnostic atheist because while I do not believe in any gods(s), I do not eliminate the possibility that some type of god or godlike being may exist. All I ask is testable, verifiable evidence of such a god. Something believers can never seem to provide.
As for specific gods? Well, I evaluate them on an individual basis. What evidences there are for and against, how the specific god is described, what powers/weaknesses are ascribed to it, etc... None so far have even passed the smell test.
As far as the gawd of the buy-bull? Oh, hell no. It's one great big logical inconsistency.
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