RE: When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?
March 24, 2015 at 8:13 pm
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2015 at 8:18 pm by abentwookie.)
(March 24, 2015 at 8:00 pm)Dystopia Wrote:(March 24, 2015 at 7:45 pm)abentwookie Wrote: I am pretty sure she is referring to Copts, who have been involved in violence frequently. Yes, they are a minority so if you want to see the same violence and oppression in a country where Christianity is the predominant religion, you can take a look at places like Uganda, Papua New Guinea, etc...The worst Christian "theocracy" is not nearly as bad as the average Islamic theocracy.
Are we talking about historically or present day? If it is the former, then I could make a strong argument against that statement. If it is the latter, I could still argue the point. Not that it really matters. Both are horrible and dismissing one because the other may be worse is just a fallacy of relative privation. In places like Uganda, LGBT people are thrown in jail and often attacked just for being who they are. They even originally wanted to have them executed. And in PNG women are often still burned alive because Christians there think "witches" are real. The problem isn't so much the religions themselves. They are just a symptom of the underlying issues. We have seen that Christianity and Islam can both be civilized to an extent when they exist in countries with secular laws. safety nets for the poor and proper education systems. However, when you put either of them in a country with rampant poverty, minimal access to education and a government that leans heavily toward being a theocracy, you get the same barbaric and oppressive behavior in both religions.
(March 24, 2015 at 8:02 pm)I Am Not A Human Being Wrote: It's the Coptic Egyptians who are the targets of Islamist violence. This anti-Christian trend has become a lot more frequent since the Muslim Brotherhood seized power in Egypt.
At the moment, yes. However, they have also committed their share of violence. Their hands aren't clean.
Quote:And yes, Copts are understandably angry at the widespread discrimination, church bombings and mob violence towards their community which isn't getting enough police protection.
Does that excuse their own violence?
Quote:Those places aren't in the ME so your point is irrelevant.
So Christian violence only counts in the middle-east? Well, since she specifically said the ME, I suppose that is a fair point. Let's not pretend that it doesn't exist elsewhere though.