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Helping Christians to lose faith?
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RE: Helping Christians to lose faith?
(April 2, 2015 at 11:06 am)xmark27 Wrote: You  expect the world to be perfect. That's why you believe there is no God. You are afraid of his existence.

Do not tell us what we think, thanks a lot.

(April 2, 2015 at 11:06 am)xmark27 Wrote: You will use your philosophical ideas and what little science has learned to say there is no God. Science has never come to the conclusion how life started and you all know that is true. Science doesn't know they can only assume this is what happened.

Actually, science has a couple of pretty good ideas about how life might have started, whereas your religion only says "god did it".

(April 2, 2015 at 11:06 am)xmark27 Wrote: The answer will never be found by using science.

Yes, because bronze age myths are much more reliable than the scientific method.

(April 2, 2015 at 11:06 am)xmark27 Wrote: You all want it to be a fairy tale if God does exist, but it doesn't work that way.

And you all want it to be true that god exist, but it doesn't work that way.

(April 2, 2015 at 11:06 am)xmark27 Wrote: I have had an interaction with God. He came to me one night and said he forgave me for all my sins and though I did not see his face I felt his hand on my shoulder. I have seen things that I hope none of you should ever see.

I have had an interaction with god, too. He told me to kill myself and everyone I knew.


(April 2, 2015 at 11:06 am)xmark27 Wrote: I have seen evil. No its not because they are mental or are faking it. They have been evaluated by your doctors and they have said we don't know what's wrong with them. You will laugh though and you will say I am not afraid because that stuff is fake.

This is all a naked assertion and cannot be evaluated. There's nothing I can say about that, because the only information I have is what you said, which is not reliable.

(April 2, 2015 at 11:06 am)xmark27 Wrote: You will give me an answer about what you think it is. You live a happy life not because God does not exist, but because that's what the devil wants for you to not believe in God.

Again, do not tell us what we do or will do.

(April 2, 2015 at 11:06 am)xmark27 Wrote: Many of you remind me of Jesus disciples. No matter how many times Jesus showed them he was the Son of God they still denied him. They did not want to believe because how could someone like that exist? They refused to believe until Jesus showed them all his miracles. And yet some still did not believe. Like Jesus said "There are some who have seen me, but do not believe in me yet there are those who have not seen me and believe."

If there is a god, he is absolutely terrible at providing evidence for his existence. You'd think if he was omnipotent, he could, I don't know, talk? And if he were real, why would there be so many religions? And so many denominations?

(April 2, 2015 at 11:06 am)xmark27 Wrote: If what you say is true then run the numbers and use the theories of science to bring you to the conclusion that we are just here by chance and nothing else. Ignorance I have never ignored science, I admire science but I know it will never explain our existence. Why we love the way we do and laugh.

Type one error in cognition: false positive, detecting patterns where there are none. Our brains evolved to spot recurring patterns in nature and those who saw them even when they weren't there survived better than those who didn't see them at all. This leads to people seeing faces in trees, toasts and inanimate objects, interpret coincidents as purposeful actions and so on.

I personally subscribe to the idea that cause and purpose are a property of the animal mind. Frankly, I doubt the rest of the universe gives two shits about us. I don't see why there needs to be a reason for everything. Shit happens.

(April 2, 2015 at 11:06 am)xmark27 Wrote: When you need him the most I promise you that you will think about praying to him at least once.

The only thing religion has given me is self-loathing, misery and mental health issues. I don't need your god, I prefer sanity.
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Helping Christians to lose faith? - by watchamadoodle - April 1, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Joods - April 1, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by pocaracas - April 1, 2015 at 1:46 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by robvalue - April 1, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Spooky - April 1, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Cephus - April 1, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by AFTT47 - April 1, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Joods - April 1, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Tonus - April 1, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by John V - April 1, 2015 at 2:51 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Cephus - April 1, 2015 at 5:31 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by dyresand - April 1, 2015 at 3:12 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by John V - April 1, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by dyresand - April 1, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Minimalist - April 1, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Joods - April 1, 2015 at 3:31 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Pyrrho - April 1, 2015 at 3:48 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Pyrrho - April 1, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by xmark27 - April 1, 2015 at 9:54 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by The Valkyrie - April 1, 2015 at 9:58 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by AFTT47 - April 1, 2015 at 10:13 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by xmark27 - April 1, 2015 at 10:25 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Tonus - April 1, 2015 at 10:39 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by xmark27 - April 1, 2015 at 10:43 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by dyresand - April 1, 2015 at 10:47 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Tonus - April 2, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by xmark27 - April 1, 2015 at 11:00 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by dyresand - April 1, 2015 at 11:12 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Aractus - April 1, 2015 at 11:07 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Jackalope - April 1, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by dyresand - April 1, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Aractus - April 1, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Surgenator - April 1, 2015 at 11:27 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by xmark27 - April 1, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by pocaracas - April 2, 2015 at 4:48 am
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Surgenator - April 1, 2015 at 11:32 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by xmark27 - April 1, 2015 at 11:36 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by dyresand - April 1, 2015 at 11:53 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Surgenator - April 2, 2015 at 12:02 am
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by robvalue - April 2, 2015 at 3:48 am
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by robvalue - April 2, 2015 at 4:51 am
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by dyresand - April 2, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by xmark27 - April 2, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by robvalue - April 2, 2015 at 11:10 am
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Norman Humann - April 2, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by robvalue - April 2, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by xmark27 - April 2, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Brian37 - April 2, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Crossless1 - April 2, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Norman Humann - April 2, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by robvalue - April 2, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by xmark27 - April 2, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Norman Humann - April 2, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by xmark27 - April 2, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Norman Humann - April 2, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by robvalue - April 2, 2015 at 12:26 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by ThomM - April 4, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by RobertE - April 4, 2015 at 6:52 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by Tonus - April 4, 2015 at 8:51 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by AFTT47 - April 4, 2015 at 9:20 pm
RE: Helping Christians to lose faith? - by RobertE - April 5, 2015 at 5:24 am

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