(April 3, 2015 at 1:39 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote: In the meantime, take this opportunity to study the Babble as every atheist really should. It will help in later debates once you do come out.
Fuck the bible. That's just propaganda written by the winners. If you want to have some real fun read through some of these characters.
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/ch...thers.html
You find such gems as this in Irenaeus' Against Heresies, Book 2
Quote:Chapter XXII.-The Thirty Aeons are Not Typified by the Fact that Christ Was Baptized in His Thirtieth Year: He Did Not Suffer in the Twelfth Month After His Baptism, But Was More Than Fifty Years Old When He Died.
Clearly, the fuckers were still working out the kinks in the late 2d century!
Baby steps, Min.
Let him first discover the wonderful world of mental gymnastics that Christians perform as they try to reconcile the four different Gospels accounts with each other and with Acts. That alone is a train wreck.
Then he can find the gems in the epistles that completely derail the Christian dreamscape of "The Early Church", like my personal favorite 1John 4:1-3, where a supposed companion of Jesus has to denounce the Docetic Christians who thought Jesus was an apparition and he does so not with recent history that living people would have remembered by the language of faith.
Then let him find out just how unreliable the "reliable eye-witnesses" were. Mark was an anonymous Gospel attributed by tradition who was in turn supposedly passing on what he'd heard Peter say. And this Gospel got at least one second edition that we know of with Mark 16.
Then he can attend your graduate level class where he'll learn all about the wild variety of "early Christianities", the pseudo-epigraphy, the "interpolations", the different Christian takes on who, what, where and when Jesus was and what a crock the entire drama is.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist