(September 10, 2010 at 2:36 pm)The Omnissiunt One Wrote: One problem with 'Je pense, donc je suis' is that it can only prove the existence of the self at the time of thinking that; it can't prove the continuation of the self over time. Different selves could keep popping into existence, contemplating their own existence (with false memories of their past existence in tow), then disappearing.Indeed I would further assert that existence exists inedependently of the concious and has primacy over it. You can only be concious of yourself in relation to things around you, remove all stimulii and you cannot be ceratin of your own existence. But even if you lose the power to be concious (coma for example) you still are physically instantiated in the universe and therefore still exist. Conciousness only being concious of iteslf is circular reasoning and leaves the theistic concept of god in trouble, it is a nonsensical concept.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
