RE: What Would It Take To Be Convinced?
May 4, 2015 at 1:58 am
(This post was last modified: May 4, 2015 at 2:04 am by robvalue.)
To me the only kind of "God" that makes any sense is the one where we are a simulation and "God" is our programmer or the computer we're running on. So in that case God would probably be nothing more than a regular life form in whatever reality is running the simulation.
If that is the case, I suppose the programmer could make it more and more obvious this is a simulation by making weird stuff happen. Maybe lines of code start floating around everywhere, where we can all see them. Our bodies get disconnected from our heads, float around then connect again with no damage, and so on. Of course if this happened my first thought would be I'm dreaming or hallucinating, and even though those around me are "confirming" they are experiencing it too, I have no way of knowing any of it is real. But as far as the reality/dream/hallucination I was in is concerned, that would be pretty good evidence that we're in a simulation.
As for mister beardy pants, I don't have enough information about what it's even meant to be since even theists can't give me a sensible definition. I could have passed 3 on the street yesterday. So I don't even know what it is I'm looking for evidence of. If some amazing being turned up and did a load of powerful things, then I'd believe that whatever it was, it was real. Theists would also have no idea if this was their God or not. And of course it's subject to the above problems of dreaming and hallucinating. So whatever a "God" is would determine exactly what evidence I would need. But fucking anything at all would be a start.
But there's just not enough detail in the story books to be able to make an identification, even if Yahweh is tapping his feet waiting for me to do so right in front of me.
Pro tip for Chad:
Just because something is written in a book, it doesn't mean it's true.
If that is the case, I suppose the programmer could make it more and more obvious this is a simulation by making weird stuff happen. Maybe lines of code start floating around everywhere, where we can all see them. Our bodies get disconnected from our heads, float around then connect again with no damage, and so on. Of course if this happened my first thought would be I'm dreaming or hallucinating, and even though those around me are "confirming" they are experiencing it too, I have no way of knowing any of it is real. But as far as the reality/dream/hallucination I was in is concerned, that would be pretty good evidence that we're in a simulation.
As for mister beardy pants, I don't have enough information about what it's even meant to be since even theists can't give me a sensible definition. I could have passed 3 on the street yesterday. So I don't even know what it is I'm looking for evidence of. If some amazing being turned up and did a load of powerful things, then I'd believe that whatever it was, it was real. Theists would also have no idea if this was their God or not. And of course it's subject to the above problems of dreaming and hallucinating. So whatever a "God" is would determine exactly what evidence I would need. But fucking anything at all would be a start.
But there's just not enough detail in the story books to be able to make an identification, even if Yahweh is tapping his feet waiting for me to do so right in front of me.
Pro tip for Chad:
Just because something is written in a book, it doesn't mean it's true.
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