(September 13, 2010 at 7:00 pm)annatar Wrote:
1-No I take the events depicted as true and read it with an open mind and heart. I try and read it like a police report with various witness accounts about the same event. You have to take into account their societal, technological, and rational development and mental state (read in context) then sort though the human and subjective bias (depersonalize) as best you can. I try not to rationalize anything or jump to any conclusions. I think I have a fairly standard Christian view of the Bible and they are neither the most unlikely or irrational.
2/3-Why would a diety ever see need to repeat his covenants? Despite the fact he took the time to dictate a second set to Moses. I'm not aware of Jesus writing anything or commanding anything to be written. As for why did Moses, idk.. I have a whole bunch of WTF for him as well. Biblically according to the story he came down saw the partying and worshiping a false idol and threw down the stones and then started an internal war, destroyed the idol, chastised the people then went for atonement.
4- I wasn't speaking specifically of you being dismissive, just a general statement. If you don't dismiss evidence just misunderstand.. idk what will happen. Is it your fault for not getting clear info, no I don't think so.I guess the question would then become did you use enough effort to try and get it straight or just give it up?
5- But God is a personal God, not just the God who visited Moses or Abraham. If you told all of your millions of employees that the pen is mightier than the sword in a memo and then told one to build something mightier than the sword, wouldn't you expect a pen? I'm a big proponent of personal accountability so I'd say it's the individual's responsibility for what they produce. Misguided instructions are no excuse for not using common sense, conscience, and rationality (and the Holy Spirit in Christian cases).
6-IDK, but if you're talking about a non-physical body experiencing pain.. it doesn't seem to make sense that it would be anything remotely close to physical pain. However the Bible does say there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, which seems indicative as more of an emotional anguish and pain than a physical.
7-You're going to have to be specific on what exactly is being unreasonable if you're going to make such bald personal assertions.
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