Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: November 8, 2024, 8:56 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Mind over matter?
#23
RE: Mind over matter?
It's absolutely possible Pippy, to an extent it has already been done, using the same principles that drive evolution in an experiment by Charles Ofria.

Experiments in Avida nearly always start with the simplest possible organisms, ones that can only clone themselves. To make them evolve, the experimenters release them into a competitive environment where the prize is an amount of “food” - aka processing time - which allows organisms to produce more clones. In early memory experiments, Laura Grabowski, now at the University of Texas-Pan American, Edinburg, set up a food gradient in a computer environment made of a grid of cells. First-generation Avidians were placed at the low end of the gradient, in a cell that had minimal food. Straight ahead of them, however, lay a cell that had more. The Avidians replicated themselves for nearly 100 generations, “living” and “dying” in the cell. Then one evolved a computer instruction to move forward. When it landed in an energy-richer cell, it reproduced more rapidly. Many thousands of generations later, some of its descendents were seen following the food gradient to its source, where concentrations were highest

Even then the Avidians did not home in on the source. They stumbled their way along the gradient in zigzags, sensing the food and eventually reaching the source. They had evolved to ability to compare food in its current and past locations. “Doing this requires some rudimentary intelligence,” says Pennock. “You have to be able to assess your situation, realise you’re not going in the right direction, reorient, and then reassess.” Next, Grabowski sent a fresh batch of non-evolved Avidians on a treasure hunt. This time, cells contained a numerical code, which indicated in what direction the organisms should turn to find more food. But there was an additional twist to the task. Some cells contained the instruction “repeat what you did last time”. The Avidians once more evolved into forms that could interpret and execute the instruction. “The environment sets up selective pressures so organisms are forced to come up with some kind of memory use - which is in fact what they do,” says Grabowski.

This is not unlike evolution in living creatures, and the findings of the MSU computer scientists have attracted interest from biologists. “Laura’s work suggests that the evolution of an ability to solve simple navigational problems depends on first evolving a simple short-term memory - and this in digital organisms that still don’t exhibit something you would call learning,” says Fred Dyer, an MSU zoologist who advised Grabowski. Dyer says this sort of insight would be all but impossible to obtain by studying biological systems.
(Artificial Life 2009, p 92).

Archive of articles:
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/avidians
.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Mind over matter? - by Captain Scarlet - September 7, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by theVOID - September 7, 2010 at 5:31 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by Captain Scarlet - September 8, 2010 at 10:12 am
RE: Mind over matter? - by DeistPaladin - September 9, 2010 at 8:17 am
RE: Mind over matter? - by Watson - September 8, 2010 at 4:43 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by padraic - September 9, 2010 at 9:28 am
RE: Mind over matter? - by theVOID - September 9, 2010 at 7:56 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by padraic - September 9, 2010 at 9:50 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by DeistPaladin - September 10, 2010 at 12:41 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by Pippy - September 9, 2010 at 10:15 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by theVOID - September 13, 2010 at 5:28 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by Minimalist - September 13, 2010 at 5:46 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by Rwandrall - September 10, 2010 at 12:14 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by The Omnissiunt One - September 10, 2010 at 2:36 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by Captain Scarlet - September 12, 2010 at 6:22 am
RE: Mind over matter? - by Pippy - September 11, 2010 at 2:04 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by padraic - September 12, 2010 at 5:07 am
RE: Mind over matter? - by Pippy - September 12, 2010 at 8:15 am
RE: Mind over matter? - by theVOID - September 13, 2010 at 6:05 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by Pippy - September 14, 2010 at 3:18 am
RE: Mind over matter? - by downbeatplumb - September 14, 2010 at 12:20 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by Pippy - September 15, 2010 at 10:24 pm
RE: Mind over matter? - by theVOID - September 16, 2010 at 12:40 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Question on mind miaharun 19 1391 March 3, 2022 at 11:57 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Satirical logic for the atheistic mind Drich 158 22975 June 13, 2018 at 9:22 pm
Last Post: Amarok
  Dark matter kicks ass again. Please watch. ignoramus 3 1017 June 4, 2018 at 11:29 am
Last Post: Angrboda
  "I refuse to change my mind" Socrates 41 7180 March 2, 2017 at 4:39 am
Last Post: Huggy Bear
  Religion - The Poison For Human Mind (VIDEO) BLuex 1 1270 December 20, 2015 at 2:47 pm
Last Post: vorlon13
  The Holy Horseshit...No Matter Who Wrote It...Is The Problem Minimalist 7 4245 December 12, 2015 at 1:14 am
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  Theists: Can god read my mind? robvalue 27 7210 July 25, 2015 at 8:47 am
Last Post: ignoramus
  Does your God Only Live in your Mind? Salacious B. Crumb 2 1748 May 2, 2015 at 1:12 pm
Last Post: Salacious B. Crumb
Wink I change my mind there is a god and he is Great! là bạn điên 11 3856 January 23, 2014 at 10:16 pm
Last Post: EgoRaptor
  Freeing the mind slaves Jacob(smooth) 52 13644 December 17, 2013 at 8:08 pm
Last Post: Whateverist



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)