RE: The argument against God
January 24, 2009 at 4:19 pm
(This post was last modified: January 24, 2009 at 4:20 pm by LukeMC.)
(January 24, 2009 at 3:43 pm)CoxRox Wrote:(January 24, 2009 at 12:19 pm)Darwinian Wrote: But the 'laws' of physics are simply human creations themsleves.
The laws of physics do not have to describe reality itself but instead simply explain and predict observations made by humans. They are not laws in a legal sense but instead are simply conclusions based on repeated scientific experiments and simple observations, over many years, and which have become accepted universally within the scientific community.
I have trouble understanding how a cataclysmic or chaotic event (the Big Bang) has given rise to so much 'order' ie the 'laws' of physics e.g gravity and how this order is maintained? Stenger is going to be discussing this in his book so I may get a different 'take' on your understanding of these laws.
Maybe you ought to look at the universe on an astronomical timescale. Imagine somebody throwing a brick through a window and the pieces of glass are shattering everywhere. After say 0.4 seconds, a micro organism is born which experiences time very slowly (a thousandth of a second is a year to the mico organism). Now imagine how it would feel to be that micro organism, looking around at all the beautiful sparkling shards of glass which are flying slowly away from each other, glistening in the light. You don't know why this glass is here or when it came into existence, all you can see is it VERY slowly moving. How possibly could a chaotic crash have spontaneously been responsible for such beauty- it looks so ordered.
But at the end of the day, it's still a chaotic event if you view it in human time. Imagine looking at the universe in astronomical numbers, experiencing 5 billion years per human second. You'd see a huge expansion with things flying off in different directions, igniting and suddenly rocks are flying everywhere and they're crashing into each other with matter being sucked into little black holes from all angles and things are exploding wherever you look. You'd be thinking "wtf chaos =/". Within 2 and half seconds, you've just witnessed the entire history of the universe as we know it, and I doubt it would look so ordered then.
I don't know, that's just one take on things.
On the other hand you could just imagine dropping a rock into a puddle. To begin with, lots of energy being dispersed in all directions, but after a few seconds as you look on the outer ripple, things look lovely and calm
