(September 16, 2010 at 9:42 am)annatar Wrote:Quote:ry and find an example of muslims desecrating temples or massacring people because of religious differences from that timelol of course I can.. You know the Kaaba? That was a pagan temple and there was more than 100 pagan god statue in there.Then muhammed came along, destroyed all statues of pagans and called it the house of allah..(which is actually true because allah was one of the pagan gods) Actually Muhammed fought against pagans in all his life. And jews. He was tolerant at first but the more he gain strength the less tolerant he became.
Quote:And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
At Tawbah-5(9:5)
And remember that every city conquered by jihad can be looted for 3 days according to islam...
Anyway we are not trying to find who is worse.. But believe me when I say Islam was antisemitist and intolerant. Actually he and his imaginary god cursed the jews in quran...
But you are right. There were times muslims were more tolerant then christians. Especially during the crusades and after that in early times of The Ottoman Empire.
In advanced days of Ottoman empire, non-muslims were strictly protected. And they were giving extra tax instead of being recruited to army. This may still seem unfair to us but for those times was probably a good thing.
You can see Scholars like Mevlana shows the soft side of islam. We can say that these was the golden age of islam.
But these facts only supports my point, Its not about religion itself its about people...
And today Muslims are the most intolerant people in the earth you can't argue with that..
Oh for sure, I agree religion is destructive in all forms in one way or another. But from personal experience i'm just unable to write off all muslims as simply being intolerant, because it's just not the case. But you're living in a muslim country during a time when the whole world media is encouraging people to hate muslims, so if you want to believe that you won't find much resistance, quite the opposite in fact. You'll find plenty of encouragement on that subject!
Politically though, muslims are in the position of the victim- across the west, and palestine and the middle east much more so in terms of brutality. For that reason alone if you chose to attack muslims based on their religion, then at least wait until you've gotten rid of the christians first, because their actions cause much more suffering in the world than the muslims, whose violent behaviour today is a reaction to western and corporate exploitation, and israel of course.
It's the case- as i see it, and simplified- that if it wasn't for the slave mentality of christians allowing their leaders to do as they please today and throughout the history of christianity then these leaders would be held accountable for their actions and the world might just turn into a fairer place.
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