Open challenge regarding the supernatural

[robvalue]

Hmm. Yes, that's interesting.

Well, if we are going to call the mind supernatural, that is a statement that we will never be able to measure it, we will never find out it doesn't really "exist", and we will never find out it's in some way natural.

Do you think it is possible to be so confident as that? I'm not so sure.

As for do mind's even exist, all I can ever know for sure is I appear to be experiencing something. I have no firm evidence anyone else is.

But can't I test my own mind, to some degree, although indirectly? For example, I can fuck with my brain and such to see what happens to the mind. I'd be the only one getting the results, but if I'm to assume my mind is real, then my experiences of it should be real too? This is fucking tricky stuff!

And do we know the mind is really anything other than the brain? Scientifically, isn't it just an emergent property that may not literally exist?

It's a good one though! This will take some thought. I'm not going to just announce "I win" here This deserves much more discussion.

I'll think about your "prove natural" thing also.

Someone make a shit argument so I can point out a glaring problem.