RE: Nature's Laws
May 22, 2015 at 3:10 pm
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2015 at 3:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 22, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Freedom4me Wrote: I don't claim to have the ability to comprehend what it might be like to "know nothing about it." I can, therefore, only respond to the "knows something" state of affairs. If nature builds machines, my ability to (slightly) understand the concept of teleonomy tends to make me ask, where does this plan, purpose, and know-how come from? I'm just taking note of the well observed fact that machines always seem to require a planner who has a purpose.
Are you a machine? You must be, if you hope that this comparison holds and is somehow informative of your own state of being. Right? What can you tell us about those planners, with purpose. Are they all..in every instance you've observed....of a single species, for example? Our observations must (you're observing...of course - and you aren't interested in knowing nothing) lead us to the conclusion that life could not have formed in the absence of one of those human planners, with purpose....because, so sayeth you, they seem to be a requirement. I think, for our discussion..we could call him Steve. How does that sound?
Is that your contention...that Steve™ is required for life to have arisen? If not..why not? That -is- where your "well-observed fact" leads...after all.
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