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Faith vs Belief
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Faith vs Belief
I didn't expect to make this thread for a few more weeks yet.  But then on my first googling I came upon this and thought it as good a place to start as any.  My intention is to add more sources every week or two in the service of my over-arching goal which is to drive a wedge between the two words.

Briefly, I want to establish that faith is a receptive stance while belief is a declarative stance.  Faith insists there is meaning whether or not one is capable of articulating it.  Whenever you specify what it is that has meaning, you are expressing a belief.  Many (but not all) Christians carry on as if life, the cosmos and identity are simple things - because they have the holy reference book of meaning called the bible.  True believers are locked in a stance of espousing their truth.  The faithful reserve the right to self correct as needed in their search for the truth.  One stance grabs truth and pins it in a collection box, the other studies and marvels at it wherever it flies.  

Okay, Exhibit One: from a catholic source, Dr. Gregory Popcak who distinguishes faith from belief according to what he calls the psychology of religion.  (I know very little of him or his website but offer what he says on its own merits.)

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/faithonthec...ifference/






Note I suspect he and I might have different ideas about the best way to exercise one's faith.  He is probably more motivated than I to be sure faith sticks the landing into the appropriate beliefs.  Wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that what he would count as the appropriate beliefs turn out to be found in the catechism.  Regardless I like the way he makes the distinction between belief and faith.


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Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - May 23, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by KevinM1 - May 23, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - May 23, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - May 24, 2015 at 9:04 am
RE: Faith vs Belief - by KevinM1 - May 24, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - May 24, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by robvalue - May 24, 2015 at 9:25 am
RE: Faith vs Belief - by robvalue - May 24, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - May 24, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by robvalue - May 24, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by dyresand - May 24, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - May 24, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by dyresand - May 24, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Anima - May 24, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - May 24, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - June 5, 2015 at 12:18 am
RE: Faith vs Belief - by ignoramus - June 5, 2015 at 4:51 am
RE: Faith vs Belief - by robvalue - June 5, 2015 at 7:15 am
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - June 5, 2015 at 10:50 am
RE: Faith vs Belief - by robvalue - June 5, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - June 5, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - June 7, 2015 at 1:03 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by comet - June 9, 2015 at 7:16 am
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Godschild - June 10, 2015 at 3:05 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - June 10, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by comet - June 10, 2015 at 7:57 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - June 11, 2015 at 11:33 am
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Godschild - June 11, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - June 11, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Godschild - June 12, 2015 at 5:42 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - June 12, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by comet - June 12, 2015 at 3:58 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - June 12, 2015 at 4:35 pm
RE: Faith vs Belief - by comet - June 13, 2015 at 7:54 am
RE: Faith vs Belief - by Whateverist - June 13, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: Faith vs Belief - by comet - June 16, 2015 at 3:42 pm

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