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To all believers: Do you believe in miracles?
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RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles?
(September 20, 2010 at 10:29 pm)tackattack Wrote: @CS - I disagree and think it's rational.
Presupposing God exists as defined as the creator of the universe he would
A) be more powerful or complex then the sum of his creation therefore all powerful in relation within this universe
B) If he created something from nothing his power obviously has the ability to manifest physically.
Miracles are perfectly reasonable using the above rationale. Of course those are some mighty big presuppositions and would require just as substantial evidence. But while none of this speaks of it's truth I wouldn't say it were irrational. Perhaps a solely materialistic view might see anything insubstantial, even in probability, as irrational because what's rational is what's real to them and what's real is only what they can see,taste, touch or hear.
Yup and thats your problem right there, you have ontologically defined god into exstence, and unsurprisingly the god concept you have hit upon has the exact attributes you need to prove your point. Need much, much more than that. All of this paper excercise to write god into existence, still can't get to god and even if it could it wouldn't get to a personal god who intervenes.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
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To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by annatar - September 20, 2010 at 12:00 am
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by padraic - September 20, 2010 at 2:08 am
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 4:21 am
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by Rayaan - September 20, 2010 at 4:33 am
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 5:47 am
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by bucky - September 20, 2010 at 1:12 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by theVOID - September 20, 2010 at 10:58 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by Soyouz - September 20, 2010 at 1:43 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by Captain Scarlet - September 22, 2010 at 3:58 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by madferit - September 20, 2010 at 10:52 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by IceSage - September 20, 2010 at 11:18 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by Godschild - September 21, 2010 at 12:07 am
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by IceSage - September 22, 2010 at 3:47 am
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by theVOID - September 20, 2010 at 11:21 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by annatar - September 20, 2010 at 11:31 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by Godschild - September 21, 2010 at 10:01 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by annatar - September 21, 2010 at 12:25 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by bucky - September 22, 2010 at 9:39 am
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by Skipper - September 22, 2010 at 10:43 am
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by Rayaan - September 22, 2010 at 2:50 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by jason56 - September 23, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by solja247 - September 23, 2010 at 9:36 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by jason56 - September 23, 2010 at 9:53 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by IceSage - September 23, 2010 at 10:09 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by jason56 - September 24, 2010 at 12:33 am
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by IceSage - September 24, 2010 at 6:50 pm
RE: To all believers: Do you believe in miracles? - by theVOID - September 24, 2010 at 10:04 pm

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