RE: Because the bible tells you so?
May 31, 2015 at 9:37 am
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2015 at 9:40 am by Won2blv.)
(May 30, 2015 at 11:13 pm)Exian Wrote: Hey! Thanks for responding, nica. I have no interest in ridiculing yours or anyone's responses. I just appreciate the honesty. I'll probably respond in chunks. That's a little easier for me on my shitty little phone screen.
Quote:I also think a lot about how the god of the bible is constantly reminding his followers that he is invisible and doesn't want anything made of wood or stone worshiped in place of him. I find that interesting since most gods have some kind of image that was worshiped too. It seems like the human inclination is to worship things that we can see.
This, to me, seems like the flavor of that particular month. The idea of the abstract was a gradual invention and ability of the human mind. Consider how the earliest religions started with worshiping tangible things like animals or the son/moon. This evolved to more fantastic ideas of half-human/half-animals, which evolved to become completely abstract ideas of what a god is.
And I can't seem to ignore that, even though an idol-less god was the original plan, man couldn't help but build statues of Jesus or to commission paintings of God himself. Christianity is filled to the brim with imagery, even though, as you've said, god reminds us that he is invisible. Man, uhhhh uh uhhhh finds a way.
Quote:2. I don't really understand the point of the question. If the judeo christian god exists then whatever mode got us here doesn't matter. If humans evolved the skill of writing or if god gifted man with the ability it doesn't make a difference to me.
Yeah, sorry about that. My questions were hastily formed, and I have a bad habit of assuming people know what I'm talking about, while leaving out large chunks of information that I assume are implied.
What I mean is, if the bible is the way to salvation, knowing god, and not being sent to hell for whatever reason, and if writing is a human invention, then regardless of how old you think the earth and humanity are, humanity would have existed for generations before the bible came around. What of those people?
Except I'm not interested in the question or the answers to "What of those people?", because that answer will have been pulled out of the ass of whoever is answering. There's nothing written about that, AFAIK. I'm more interested in the question- Doesn't the notion that generations upon generations of humans are spending an eternity in hell according to a book, just because books weren't invented yet (and the widespread reach that goes along with them) throw the whole idea of god into question?
And speaking of humanity: What happened a to Ardipithecines, Australopithecines, and the rest of our close Homo genus cousins? That's for another time, maybe.
Quote:3. For me there is not someone that I could say would write inspired scriptures today. Mostly based off Hebrews 1:1,2 where it says that god use to speak by means of prophets but now through his son Jesus
Ah, ok. Thank you.
First of all, thanks for the Jurassic Park reference. I'm revving up for the new one
So as far as it being the flavor of the month, that is a perfectly reasonable point. However for me, it is the fact that it is for hundreds of years from different writers it always stayed the same. Even the point robovalue made about god walking around in Genesis could be understood as just the Hebrew literary genre. The bible is full of metaphors that shouldn't be read literally. And the when you do look at christians in particular using items for worship, even the fact that many pray to angels more than they pray to god, is only proof that they're false christianity.
Thanks for the clarification on your second question... The bible is not what leads to salvation. Its having a relationship with god and loving him. Which includes worshipping him and following his commandments. Adam and Eve wouldn't have had a bible, neither would Noah, and so on. And as One of Jehovah's Witnesses, I have never believed in a fiery hell. The bible doesn't teach it
(May 31, 2015 at 7:32 am)Rhythm Wrote: ...it wasn't "the best possible system" then, any more than it is now..by any means you'll be demonstrate -other- than your preference. The idea that the "others" of the world were relative barabarians, was, is, and has -always been- nothing more than propaganda. I don;t think that you could have actually done an -ounce- of research here and still made this claim.
This is what I am saying rhythm... where did I make that claim? But I don't know shit about fallacies right? And that is your best argument, is that I don't know shit? How about before I do an ounce of research, you do an ounce of reading and understanding of what someone is saying, then I'll take you serious on these boards
