(June 1, 2015 at 6:25 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Meh, fuck it, I'll use the NWT. How does that sound?
John 1:1- In the beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
Who/what does this verse make reference to?
(any other christers that want to chime in feel free...but please don't shit all over the NWT- yet, lol....)
In response to your previous post first... I never said that I don't believe you wouldn't say the same things to my face. But you don't have my experience. I am not trying to convince you of anything, I know my experience and I know that the average christian doesn't know the bible at all. I have spoken to bishops of the mormon church, priest of the catholic church, and clergy of many types of denominations. You know what one catholic priest said to me once, "if you took away the bible you wouldn't have anything. at least we have the pope, our traditions and our history." Or once I had two missionaries come to my house and the one stormed off when I asked if the US went to war with Italy (his missionary partner was italian) would he fight for the US and possible kill his missionary partner. You'll probably just say I made these stories up but it doesn't make a difference to me because I know that your arguments are weak.
So in response to John 1:1... so in the beginning the word was WITH god. This seems to differentiate the two. Jesus is a god. One prophecy calls him a mighty god. Still not the almighty god. And the greek word you used for god at the end of John 1:1 had a different conjugation than the word used for the first mention of god. So you can just say that I am just molding it to what I want to believe, which I am sure you're thinking right now. Well if you keep reading John, let a lone the other gospels, you see a clear distinction between god and Jesus. From Jesus own words. Even John 3:16 says that god loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten son. So, can someone just read John 1:1 and conclude what they want? Of course, but I can use the bible as a whole to refute it. Who is showing more earnest?
