(June 5, 2015 at 12:05 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Still the dumbest analogy.Said the box of rocks...
Quote:We know marriage is a thing.Marriage is an institution, Like Religion or worship is an institution. If you are going to try and be intellectually honest you need to compare apples to apples.
If you know marriage is a thing, then you equally know Christianity is a 'thing.' Again both are institution that represent a formal Deeply personal relationship.
Quote: There are actually certificates involved and everything.The same is true with religion.
Quote: There's 3rd party evidence of it actually, you know, existing.Again the same is true with the actual acts contained in religion.
Quote: There's also the fact that the people who get married actually exist. They're not marrying a ghost, or holy spirit, or anything not tangible and evident to all.Again real people goto a real Church so again you know that is real.
What you don't seem to get is what the marriage represents is just as intangible as God IF you have never experienced either. This is also why you don't think the analogy works. because to you marriage is only a 'thing'. You don't seem to be accounting for all the intangibles that go into a relationship before a marriage can happen. Not to mention all of the intangables that must be there in order for people to stay married. These 'intangables' are also what establishes and maintains a relationship with God.
Quote:With god, there's what's presented in the bible, which is hardly an unbiased source, and the people who buy into its tripe, who are also obviously biased and their feelings/experiences can logically be explained by other, more mundane things which, following Occam's Razor, makes it far more likely that those mundane things are the cause rather than a god entity. Beyond that, there is zero, as in nothing, nada, zilch reputable evidence that a god entity actually exists.That's not true. The only thing you can truly say is you have found nothing to support the existence of God. just like if you were to never get married, the best you can say is that YOU have no proof of what Love is. You cant say love is not real or does not exist simply because you never experienced it.
Quote:And, yes, the bar is set higher for god. The more extraordinary the claim, the more extraordinary the evidence must be to verify it.
A claim is only deemed 'extrordinary' if and when the item or concept is completely foreign. If heavier than air flight possible? was it possible 200 years ago? if not, then why would any more proof be needed 200 years ago, than would be needed now, IF indeed the concept is sound? Prejudice. People want to believe what they think they already know.
Quote:And the claim of being the omnipotent, omniscient creator of the universe is far, far more extraordinary than the idea that there may be a proper partner/mate out there for everyone.So again would a face to face with such a creator be evidence enough for you? That is what Jesus is offering in Luke 11. If we exert just the same effort we put into finding the person we want to spend our life with.
Quote:Again, you're relying on naive romanticism and a tortured analogy to make a point that is easily refuted.Easily refuted if and only if one is not honestly looking at all of what is being said.