Abraham and Jewish History?!?

[Cerrone]

Never the less, relied HEAVILY on oral tradition and we take their oral traiditions as being credible, being passed down from generation to generation for thousands of years

Who's this "we" you're talking about?

Certainly no-one I know attaches any credibility to the aborigines creation myths, and to use that as a reason to take Abraham seriously is ludicrous.

I think the guys point was more to do with the common trend being that atheists or people with an anti-god/religion agenda (... or is anti-deists the correct term?) will attack christianity or islam, but they don't concern themselves with the more ancient pagan religions like the aboriginies, aztecs or the celts.

I can't answer for anyone else but my explanation of my own anti-deism stems from the fact that i've seen christianity repeatedly as a harmful school of thought, both dangerous to the individual and the society with no basis in truth and no redeeming qualities whatsoever unless the individual wanted to become powerless and exploited, and the society wanted to lower itself to the status of slaves.

That's also the reason I tend to leave Islam alone, whereas the christians have historically been the savage aggressor it's been Islam that has been the enlightened defender, at least around its own borders and that's true today even if you look at the middle east situation objectively. Granted, Islam and Christianity are very similar, but i've always been a great believer in "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and socially and certianly ideologically i've always found Muslims more agreeable and generally pleasent compared to the head in the sand or just plain indifferant christians.

With ancient religions, particulary those that followed the "family of gods" and "nature is sacred" trends you can't help but see that the logic in these beliefs is undeniable and at the time presented a functioning and sustainable basis from which many societies and cultures have prospered. Granted, it's still propaganda, but the product of paganism and polythesium never resulted in such misery and instilled dystopian aspirations as christianity caused. And I hasten to add i've studied anthropology and history pretty much all of my life, so I like to think I can claim some authority on the subjects.

Simply put though, in answer to Why you should condemn christianity, judaism and any kind of monothesium and not the ancient religions; it's they believe that this world is false, that god made it for us to exploit and that all we should only concern ourselves with is praying to jesus or allah and looking forward to death after a lifetime of unrelentless labour and suffering, and that our kings and rulers are gods representatives on earth and that any revolution to try and change our lives for the better is an abhorent blasphemy.

Now look at that and compare it to the practise of paganism and polytheist religions with a respect for nature and natural order, who believed that man was equal and had his place in the world and that nature should be respected. Which was their general view of life more or less. So whereas the ancient religions attempted to make mankind be at peace and have harmony in their lives, it's been christianity that's tried to control and exploit the world for the benefit of the people in charge.

Does that help you find an answer at all?