Abraham and Jewish History?!?

[solja247]

Certainly no-one I know attaches any credibility to the aborigines creation myths, and to use that as a reason to take Abraham seriously is ludicrous.

I used Abraham and the dreaming time because they both rely heavily on oral tradition, I dont know many other peoples who relied on oral traditions. But we take the oral tradition of the Aboriginal's as credible, of what the Aboriginals have believed for a very long time, yet we dismiss the Bible in its entirety when, there is no reason to take the Torah as being metaphoric, or not to be taken literal.

King Arthur was a myth, too. So was jesus.

So was Socrates...

As noted, the Chaldeans did not arrive in Mesopotamia until the Iron Age - long after the alleged time of "Abraham."

We have to be careful, archaeology is always digging and proving old theories wrong...
Although, the article said something which seems to be more so the case:

"If we suppose that the Genesis text has a much earlier origin, then “of the Chaldees” could be an explanation added to the text at a time when the location of Ur needed to be clarified. The phrase may not be part of a tradition reaching back to Abraham’s time, but the information it preserves—namely, that Abraham came from Babylonia—could well be part of the ancient tradition."

Dr Hoffmeier in his book, 'The Archaeology of the Bible' has a lot of stuff to say for example, that the 6,000 recorded West Semetic names, 'Isaac, Jacob, Ishmael and Joseph' are more popular in the first of the second millennium bc, than the second half. Reading Abraham's life, in the Bible, shows ancient beliefs like, 'Alliances, treaties, marriage and children.'

I can't answer for anyone else but my explanation of my own anti-deism stems from the fact that i've seen christianity repeatedly as a harmful school of thought, both dangerous to the individual and the society with no basis in truth and no redeeming qualities whatsoever unless the individual wanted to become powerless and exploited, and the society wanted to lower itself to the status of slaves.

'Asians cant drive' is exactly the same sort of sterotyping you are doing above...

That's also the reason I tend to leave Islam alone, whereas the christians have historically been the savage aggressor

No. Yes, in the West, but not in the East (Asia) or in the South (Africa) it lived there for centuries, relatively peaceful...
You may find this incredible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianit...he_Mongols (I know I did)

Islam that has been the enlightened defender

Not really...

Simply put though, in answer to Why you should condemn christianity, judaism and any kind of monothesium and not the ancient religions; it's they believe that this world is false, that god made it for us to exploit and that all we should only concern ourselves with is praying to jesus or allah and looking forward to death after a lifetime of unrelentless labour and suffering, and that our kings and rulers are gods representatives on earth and that any revolution to try and change our lives for the better is an abhorent blasphemy.

Thats not what I asked. Why should we dismiss Moses, Abraham, David and so forth? We have no reason at all!

So whereas the ancient religions attempted to make mankind be at peace and have harmony in their lives

Really?