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Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play
(June 7, 2015 at 12:37 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:
(June 7, 2015 at 11:15 am)Drich Wrote: So what 'evidence' would you have of any one you love or any relationship other than your "feelings and experiences" with that person?

If you don't know the difference between people who are standing right in front of you (objective, physical experience) and an imaginary god whom  you've never seen or heard or felt or smelt or tasted (subjective, emotional experience) , then again this is a job for the men in the long white coats.

Yup.  Like I said above, feelings towards something does not make that something real.  It's always a step removed.  One's feelings towards their god is not evidence of that god's existence outside of the mind of the person thinking about it.  To claim otherwise is ridiculous.

Like you say, we know, objectively, that people exist.  We can actually hold a real conversation with them.  Touch them.  Disagree with them.  Smell them.  Get to know all their little quirks.  That's simply not possible with god.  And the people who tend to claim to hear god are generally the same people who try to drown their kids, so I hope Drich forgives us for not thinking destructive mental illness is something to celebrate.

And, to get back to the crucified (see what I did there?) analogy, the 'right' person for us is likely one of many such 'right' people for us, or, perhaps, no one actually is quite 'right' for us, but we make do and compromise because it's better than being lonely in most cases.  And a lot of people don't go through the process with the faith that there's a perfect person for them because a lot of people aren't children and realize that every adult relationship relies on honesty, good communication, and compromise.  Relationships require work, work that's beyond the laughable notion of working to strengthen one's faith in god.  Again, god cannot compromise.  God doesn't actually communicate with anyone - it's just words on a sheep fucker's page and one's imagination at work.  There's no possibility for an actual give and take.

Drich attempted to mansplain what an analogy was a couple posts above.  Which is interesting, since the principles he stressed were the important parts simply don't hold up to even cursory scrutiny.  In a different thread, Ronedee demanded we post an answer that would make a five year old proud.  I'm beginning to think that Christians think at a four year old's level.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
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Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Rhondazvous - June 2, 2015 at 6:45 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by ignoramus - June 2, 2015 at 6:50 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 2, 2015 at 7:02 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 2, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 2, 2015 at 8:16 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by dyresand - June 2, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by dyresand - June 2, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 2, 2015 at 9:04 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Jenny A - June 2, 2015 at 9:46 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by vorlon13 - June 2, 2015 at 10:15 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by AFTT47 - June 2, 2015 at 10:18 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 2, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by vorlon13 - June 2, 2015 at 11:38 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by emjay - June 2, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 2, 2015 at 2:23 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 2, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 2, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 3, 2015 at 1:08 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 2, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Jenny A - June 3, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Jenny A - June 4, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 4, 2015 at 7:54 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Esquilax - June 4, 2015 at 2:23 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 4, 2015 at 3:43 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by LastPoet - June 2, 2015 at 1:50 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 2, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Longhorn - June 2, 2015 at 4:12 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:37 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 3, 2015 at 7:02 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Dystopia - June 2, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Jenny A - June 2, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 3, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:38 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 2, 2015 at 4:53 pm
Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KUSA - June 2, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 3, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by vorlon13 - June 2, 2015 at 11:41 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 3, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by vorlon13 - June 3, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 10:14 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Esquilax - June 4, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 4, 2015 at 3:37 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by ignoramus - June 4, 2015 at 3:48 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 4, 2015 at 3:57 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 4, 2015 at 8:01 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 4, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 4, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 4, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 4, 2015 at 7:27 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 5, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 5, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 5, 2015 at 2:01 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 5, 2015 at 6:13 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 4, 2015 at 8:40 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 5, 2015 at 7:11 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 5, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 5, 2015 at 12:17 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 5, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 5, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 5, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 5, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 7, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 7, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 7, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 5, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 7, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Drich - June 7, 2015 at 11:22 am
Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KUSA - June 5, 2015 at 4:10 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 6, 2015 at 6:16 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 7, 2015 at 9:00 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Crossless1 - June 7, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Rhondazvous - June 14, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by KevinM1 - June 14, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Rhondazvous - June 14, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by robvalue - June 14, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: Ceteloguing the Tricks Theists Play - by Nope - June 16, 2015 at 6:55 am

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