RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
June 8, 2015 at 4:32 pm
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2015 at 4:40 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Quote:While it is true that the majority of Jews never accepted christianity, the first christians were definitely Jews. The twelve apostles were all Jews, as well as the three thousand converts on Pentecost day. It was agreed that Paul would go to the gentiles and the other apostles would remain with the Jews.LOL, sure they were Lek, sure they were. I think that before you tell us what the twelves apostles were, you should demonstrate that they -were- anything at all. Three thousand converts you say? Dispatches from the front? You mean, agreed upon in the story...like when Nancy Drew and her friends agree to a plan?
Quote:The bible story doesn't rely on where the Jews came from genetically or culturally. Jesus was a descendant of Abraham. What bothers me is when people throw out a bunch of stuff that may be true in itself, but then try to use it to discredit christianity, when it's not related. It's like saying that the Book of Revelation is based on other Jewish writings because it's written in apocalyptic style. While it's true that this style of literature was popular at the time, it doesn't follow that Revelation was based on another Jewish story. Show me the story that it's based on and how it relates. Don't just make statements without showing the connections to the point you're trying to make.No one needs to waste any effort discrediting christianity, christianity has that handled all by itself. The jesus narrative is a "descendant" of the abraham narrative. Neither are factual.
Quote:First, I apologize for calling the statements "crazy'. I could have used a better word. It is also true that the faith as it is today has gone through a formation process. I doubt that the earliest christians had a concept of the Trinity, for instance. The were also groups such as the gnostics, as well as disagreement over doctrinal issues. To this day, there are still disagreements and heretical groups. You could say that you don't accept orthodox christianity because of this, but it doesn't actually invalidate christianity. It's akin to saying atheists should accept christianity because they can't prove there is no God. It doesn't support the premise.Christian infighting has nothing to do with why I don't accept christianity, personally. However, it invalidates -a certainty- held by many of the faithful...currently, and abandoned by those who have left the fold. Their faiths are often dependent upon this certainty, and this certainty is very often an article of faith.
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