Abraham and Jewish History?!?

[Cerrone]

lets talk about this. I am writing an essay on Romans 13 (obeying the law) it is rather fascinating...

If you've got something on your mind, let's hear it.

Where is your EMPIRICAL evidence, that Socrates existed?

I could ask the same about Jesus, Moses, Abraham and god. I can't believe you that it like that, wasn't it obvious that'd be my answer?

If all men raped women, it wouldnt be a sterotype, since all men dont rape women...

If ALL men did, then they would. My point was that entire nations christians have done horrible things, and that christian behaviour encourages that stuff i.e indifference, delusion and passivity towards your own government or institutions whilst at the same time venting their hatred on the enemies of their government (and it follows through today, look how you so readily condemn muslims). The reason it that socially it comes back to the absence of people taking responsibility for themselves and being indifferent to the crimes others commit, when if they took responsibility they could prevent them. This in itself is encouraged by christianity; a cowardly christian when he obeys his bible will turn the other cheek when he see's a man beating up another man and won't try to intervene, and that's just taking the easy way out like so much other selfish "moral guidance" christianity offers up.

Are you like modern readers, who dismiss all the crimes in the world committed by pagan and other religions, but when a Christians does something you go, 'OMG look Christians are evil!' Mongolia had a lot of Christians (dare I say Christian soldiers), however, it wasnt Christian, Christians under Islam regime gladly accepted the Mongols as their new leaders, is that a problem?

What pagan crimes are you talking about? It wasn't pagans and polythesists who forced people to believe in their religion, it wasn't them who killed and tortured anybody who disagreed or refused to convert, and it wasn't them that caused all the problems in the world. Look at the history when christianity came to power in Rome, it was followed by the Dark Ages of brutal warfare, poverty and plauge when tried and tested herbal medicene of the ancient world was denounced as witchcraft by the church and people were ordered to pray to god to become cured of illness and disease... and it didnt work.

I'm still surprised that you keep bringing up the Mongols to try and validate christianity... have you ever even read a history book? The Mongols were an "empire" of nomadic butchers and thieves who took great delight in slaughtering and robbing first from the chinese and then the other tribes and cultures around asia. And because a handful of them were christian you think this makes them any better?

In any case.. in answer to

when a Christians does something you go, 'OMG look Christians are evil!'

You judge a man by his actions; that's where I was coming from, and it is a fact that because christianity teaches man that god made the world to exploit and that all non-christians are devil worhsippers that the behaviour trend of christians has been to exploit and murder ceaselessly.

If that was your answer, it wasnt historical or archaeological, it was a theological answer...

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Yes and no; it was a personal ideological answer (dare I say political) based on anthropology and historical evidence. But theological? I don't think so lol.