Abraham and Jewish History?!?

[Cerrone]

I am slightly skeptical, I used to be more, but I realiesd that being a skeptic was infutile and pointless, I saw the light

In other words you caved into the pressure of the instituations around you.

Romans 13:1-7 is addressing that although, Christians have to obey God and citzens of God's kingdom, Christians thought they didnt have to obey the law or their Roman rulers, Paul says they have to and even goes as far as too say they are set up by God. Paul says this for political civility, not so much saying that if you speed or disobey the emporer, you will go to hell, but so that Christians didnt think they were above the law, thats the jist of it. When I finish my essay I would be happy to share it...
If you want more information read James Dunn's commentary on Romans...

The idea of eternal hell, which you said before, is a pagan belief, the bible does not support this idea in zero verses...More Christians are seeing that hell according to the bible, is a place where the 'bad' people go and are destroyed for all eternity...

Thats just a summary, I can expand if you want me too...

Thats utterly bizzare and proves my point about christians being bound by a doctrine teaching them to blindly follow their rulers as passive slaves.

Eternal hell is not a pagan belief, find me a couple of pagan religions around the levant who thought that, because I can tell you with absolute sincerity that the egyptians didn't think that, and no other religion had more influence on the damn hebrews than theirs.

If people want to dismiss a historical Jesus, they should dismiss Socrates, he has even less evidence of existing than Jesus...

Unlike jesus, Socrates actually wrote things down and left a legacy spanning from Greece to Nubia and Iberia.

Christians in the Persian empire were largely persecuted by Zorostrian preists. Some pagans would kill their children and sacrifice it to their gods, do you think Christianity is worse than that?

The Zoroastrian persecution of christians only existed after Rome converted its empire to christianity, and throughout the time Rome was constantly at war with the Persians/Syrians/Parthians. The Persians were suspicious of christians living in their cities in the same way that an open communist living in America during the cold war would have been considered suspicious.

And as for you saying "some pagans would kill christians children"
LOL
"asians can't drive the kind of stereotyping you're doing here" you said to me before.

I never said that. My point was that Christians held a lot of power in Mongolia and did not persecute any religions...

You didnt say that at all; the wikipedia evidence you provided said that the Mongol raiders -some of whom may have been christian- slaughtered the entire population of cities and settlements they targeted and when they came upon a christian who had surrendered in these settlements they spared its life. So they murdered everybody regardless of religion and then showed favoritism to christians. Sounds like genocice with a pro-christian bias to me.

Not at all. Where does it say we should exploit the world?
Note: Use the Hebrew word, not the English word...

Not even worth continuing this line of debate, you obviously haven't understood the message of monothesium or christianity and how it differed from polytheist religions.

Feel free to explain the hebrew and the enlglish words, i'm a mere roman gentile and haven't seen fit to learn hebrew. If they'd only make some books worth reading i might be more inclined...

Minimalist, do you know how they differentiate between a Jew and a non-Jew establishment?

does this joke end with ...and the barman says "get the fuck out!!" ?