(June 14, 2015 at 7:51 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(June 14, 2015 at 10:34 am)wallym Wrote: 2) I don't know that any of us are certain about free will's existence/non-existence.Oh, there are plenty here who claim to be fully certain that free will either doesn't exist, or is simply a name for a kind of determinist brain function.
I've not seen one person say they are certain one way or another, though feel free to point me to these "plenty of people" who are certain, one way or the other. I've seen more people claim a level of certainty...kind of like those levels of atheism Dawkins talks about.
Personally, I don't see how there is room for it, but I'm no mega genius who knows the working of everything, so much like my atheism, it's just goes on my "no evidence for it except personal experience, which isn't evidence, so reasonable certain doesn't exist, but could be proven wrong" list.
No, you didn't do anything to me in a past life (If I had one, I bet I was a beast of burden), you just seem to like to put words i other people's mouths. Vague people, true, but you use these vague people in your argument about how illogical and unyielding of thought determinists are, and I don't find that a very agreeable tactic.
Here you are doing it again.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
