The right to mis-define oneself

[bennyboy]

We shouldn't consider them women, because they aren't women. 

Would you take offence if people don't consider you a real man?

No.  I wouldn't take offence, because being a man is no blessing, or anything for me to strive for.  However, since I'm an adult male human, biologically speaking, and that's what "man" normally means, I would be perplexed.

I think I would retract the statement you quoted, though, as it's the harshest and most black-and-white version of the statements I've made in this thread; it's too simple for gender identity descriptions. I'd say two things about that: 1) I like the multi-axial view on gender that I mentioned earlier in this thread, wherein complex gender identities are described in multiple terms: male body, female identity, attraction to women, for example (this describes Jenner). 2) Which of these axes "matter," in a given context, if any, depends on the context. If I'm hanging out with a woman named Caitlyn, it's completely irrelevant if she has a penis or not-- I would consider her a woman. If I'm on a dating site, looking for a romantic encounter with a woman, and Jenner shows up with a penis, I'm not going to accept this as a heterosexual encounter: in this context, I wouldn't consider Jenner a woman, no matter how she identifies herself.