RE: The Trinity Explained
October 1, 2010 at 12:29 am
(This post was last modified: October 1, 2010 at 12:34 am by Godscreated.)
(September 30, 2010 at 10:49 am)tavarish Wrote:(September 28, 2010 at 1:46 pm)tackattack Wrote: @TOO- He did sacrifice part of himself.
tavarish Wrote:To what did he sacrifice part of himself?
This is what I mean by you guys take things from TV and try to apply it to God and it want work. Christ sacrificed Himself for us to cover our sins Christ could have only sacrificed Himself to God if He had done something wrong.
(September 28, 2010 at 1:46 pm)tackattack Wrote: If you picure it like a person, God the Father would be from the neck up. God the Son would be from the neck down left side. God the Spirit would be from the neck down right side.
tavarish Wrote:...so God has no control over the son and the holy spirit? Do any of them have control over each other?
You should read the Bible verses that I posted the answer is there. They are of one mind they have the same attributes they are three entities that share one common goal. That goal is to glorify God, I know you do not understand this concept but it is what it is. They do not control each other they work as one.
(September 30, 2010 at 1:06 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: [quote='Godschild' pid='96579' dateline='1285818704']
First Christ gave His life for us, He sacrificed Himself for us, His sacrifice was not made to the Father so God did not sacrifice Himself to Himself.
When you make an animal sacrifice to appease the gods (or Yahweh) for your sins, the animal isn't being sacrificed to the priest. The animal is (theoretically) being sacrificed to the gods to appease their wrath.
In cultures that offered human sacrifices to appease the gods, the human isn't dying for the community, even though the are theoretically the beneficiaries. The human is being sacrificed to the gods.
Jesus was essentially to be the penultimate sacrifice for sins, to appease the wrath of Yahweh and pave the way for our salvation (theoretically). He replaced the need for animal sacrifices as he performed that very role. He was sacrificed to Yahweh, as the previous animals were. You can't use the fact that we are (theoretically) the beneficiaries to obfuscate the issue. Yahweh is who he was sacrificed to.
But he IS Yahweh, and so he is sacrificing himself to himself in order to convince himself to forgive us.
Clear?
What I put in bold.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
