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A potential argument for existence of God
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RE: A potential argument for existence of God
(June 17, 2015 at 6:03 pm)TheMuslim Wrote: Based on you guys' feedback, your main objection is to the statement "The universe had a beginning."

Anything that moves must rationally have a beginning, because if there was an infinite amount of time before a certain movement, then that movement would never come to be (because you would have to go through an infinite number of years before you 'reached' the movement). So moving objects (including our universe) couldn't have existed forever. They must have began.

Apart from this, most empirical evidence suggests that the universe had a beginning, such as the Second Law of Thermodynamics, expansion of the universe, regularity of cosmic microwave background, and data from the BICEP2 (including direct evidence of gravitational waves). Most physicists and cosmologists agree that the universe did have a beginning. As Dr. Pluijm of the Universtiy of Michigan said, "The scientific evidence is now overwhelming that the Universe began with a 'Big Bang' about 15 billion years ago. The Big Bang theory is the most widely accepted theory of the creation of the Universe." Dr. Louis Clavelli, professor of physics at the University of Alabama, similarly reaffirms: "A large body of astrophysical observations now clearly points to a beginning for our universe about 15 billion years ago in a cataclysmic outpouring of elementary particles." Stephen Hawkings, after giving a lecture on time, said: "The conclusion of this lecture is that the universe has not existed forever. Rather, the universe, and time itself, had a beginning in the Big Bang, about 15 billion years ago."

The universe had a beginning.

Prove it.

Let me jump to the end. You can't. Your argument is based on a fallacy of proof by assertion, and can thus be discounted by that alone.

You are conflating terms in addition. 'A beginning' is incoherent and nonsensical when we consider a pre-big bang universe. Why? Read the above.

And even if it did have a beginning, and even if this beginning was a being of somesort, still doesn't mean you're right and that it was your particular plagiarized Jewish God.
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RE: A potential argument for existence of God - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 17, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: A potential argument for existence of God - by Cato - June 17, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: A potential argument for existence of God - by smax - June 18, 2015 at 7:03 am

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