Hostage to fear

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I would be happy to chat with you about any of these issues; I have a wife and kids, too, but I am a Christian. Does that mean I'm biased? Sure.

But wouldn't it be fair to say right up front that everyone who is a regular member of an Atheist Forum is biased AGAINST Christianity?

If so, why would their answers be any more objective than yours or mine?

I don't have a problem w/ chatting with Christians about these issues.  Everyone is biased.  I don't think anyone who has read the entire thread can really posit that everyone here has been entirely "against" Christianity.  As a matter of fact, one (I am assuming) atheist proposed I simply change my concept of God to an impersonal one, which is more on par than rejecting a notion of God all together.  I'm mostly agnostic, but deism best describes my thoughts of a god if one existed.

Atheists carry infinitely more intellectual honesty than the fundamentalist Christian.  Even in the most liberal churches, you will find evangelical fundies waiting to dump on you the same old stuff.  That's why I'm here, talking to people who mostly share my same *actual* beliefs: that humans are primates, the Earth is billions of years old, that there is no personal god, etc.

I appreciate you reply.  I wouldn't have a problem exchanging ideas with you.

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Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts with us.
I find it fascinating watching a potential unravelling of indoctrination occur if front of our eyes.
As you know, the world isn't going to change because of it.
It's just a state of mind.....Always was.

Catch....(and a big welcome)

/catches, puts in pocket/  Thanks!

The unravelling of indoctrination has been absolutely terrifying.  I'm not at the point that it makes me happy yet.

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Your messages are very moving I can sense what a crazily emotional time this must be for you, but an exciting and liberating one.

I'm so relieved to hear your "chick" was completely understanding. I have my suspicions that a great deal of Christians pay lip service and don't really believe half of the stuff they say they do, because they know it is ridiculous and flatly contradicts all of reality. I hope you and your family continue to work things out. And credit where credit is due, you guys put the food on the table, not God!

There's no harm in retaining any wisdom you find from the bible, being atheist/agnostic has no requirement to reject the whole bible. There's nothing wrong with having a mental image of Christ either, as a role model or friend. Jettison what is harmful, and keep what helps you.

If you have any apologetics people have put to you that are causing you doubt, feel free to post them here and we'll dismantle them.

So this post means a *GREAT* deal to me.  Everything you said has totally made me happy I decided to post here.

You have to understand that this is the first time I've interacted with atheists without defending the faith (notice I didn't say, "my faith").  I was really worried about exposing my dorsal here, but have been shown reason to be very glad I did.

Thanks!!!!!!