(June 19, 2015 at 4:33 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:(June 19, 2015 at 7:16 am)Neimenovic Wrote: @Spacetime
Do you know how the catlicks know about hell?
They don't. They made this shit up. Pulled it right out of their asses.
These people don't know shit. They don't have any answers, to any questions, so they just dream up whatever bullshit their flock is willing to swallow. And they use it to control people.
You or I could come up with an equally probable mythology in a day and it would have the same bearing on reality as catholicism. Look at how many religions there are, all claiming to be true. It's all just people making shit up and selling it.
Religion is man made, to control other men. So is hell. They want you to be scared so you'll do whatever they tell you to be 'saved'....like a little donation to their institution
I've been there, man. This fear will fade. Like you said, life with a gun to your head is no life.
What you need to do is open your eyes and realize there's no gun.
Catholics made up hell? Then what was sheol to which the OT refers more than 60 times?
Jesus says in Mark 9:47–48, "t is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell, where the worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched." And in Revelation 14:11, we read: "And the smoke of their torment goes up for ever and ever; and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name."
Hell is not just a theoretical possibility. Jesus warns us that real people go there. He says, "Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few" (Matt. 7:13–14).
So, if Jesus had a Jewish understanding of sheol before the Catholic Church was founded, how is it that the Catholic Church made it up?
Why don't you check with a jew rather than listen to your silly catholic horseshit?
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/...tradition/
Quote:Sheol: An Underground Abyss
The subject of death is treated inconsistently in the Bible, though most often it suggests that physical death is the end of life. This is the case with such central figures as Abraham, Moses, and Miriam.
There are, however, several biblical references to a place called Sheol (cf. Numbers 30, 33). It is described as a region “dark and deep,” “the Pit,” and “the Land of Forgetfulness,” where human beings descend after death. The suggestion is that in the netherworld of Sheol, the deceased, although cut off from God and humankind, live on in some shadowy state of existence.
While this vision of Sheol is rather bleak (setting precedents for later Jewish and Christian ideas of an underground hell) there is generally no concept of judgment or reward and punishment attached to it. In fact, the more pessimistic books of the Bible, such as Ecclesiastes and Job, insist that all of the dead go down to Sheol, whether good or evil, rich or poor, slave or free man (Job 3:11-19).
Sounds more like the rather common Greek version of Hades where the dead kind of hung out and pissed and moaned.