(June 19, 2015 at 11:47 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(June 18, 2015 at 11:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Yes, it does.Damn, what planet do you live on where we are Adam and Eve's ANCESTORS?
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/adam-eve-and-evolution
There was no Adam and Eve, we are not their ancestors, there isn't even a -possibility- of this story being true. The church demands that it be -held to be true-...regardless.
Perhaps another example would be both factually correct, and help to elucidate the point you wish to make?
I slowly transitioned from calling those I admire in history (from the days when Christianity meant you stayed behind in Rome to offer free healthcare for anyone while everyone else was getting the heck out of Dodge) saints to calling them "ancestors". Because my kinship to their stories was more powerful than the idea that they could somehow convince God to do something I couldn't otherwise (intercessory prayer).
Ancestor is a powerful word. I take offense that people look down on our genetic cousins. I think "Do you know how many millions of years these animals struggled so that you could procure milk, make cheese, figure out fermentation, and have the greatest damn late evening snack that no other species, as of late, has enjoyed!?!"
Ancestors. Now-a-days I include those that carved out our *RIGHT* to have our eloquently refined 5 senses in my definition of "Saint". Millions of years and millions of my own species were spent so that I can sit down to saltines, mild cheddar, and a bottle of the dryest red on the shelf. That in 13.7 billions years, I have this cosmological *wink* of cognizance to enjoy the universe around me.........
....... here's to the *real* ancestors.