(June 17, 2015 at 11:47 am)Spacetime Wrote: As I started to investigate my own religion, I began to cast out doctrines like hell... because you have a very difficult problem with theodicy if you hold to it. I then decided that the evil that occurs now is the most pressing issue if hell is out of the equation. What use is my God if He doesn't intervene? Therefore, God must not be a personal God.
I know the bible is not historically accurate, we can prove the documents are fables. I know we have no evidence for the suspension of physical laws to allow for the possibility of miracles. I know human biology doesn't allow for something like a virgin birth.
I just can't seem to give it up. If I've cast out the doctrine of hell, you'd say I have nothing to fear. I've drawn out all that I cannot hold to if I am going to hold to that which is true, there's nothing left. Absolutely nothing. My fear is entirely irrational.
My own Grandmother threatened me with hell. A girl I liked in high school... I asked her "So if I don't believe in Jesus, but am a good person, I'm still going to go to hell?" When she said "I'm sorry, but yes." I literally burst into tears in art class.
Perhaps it's those experiences that still hold me hostage to the Church. My Grandmother sends my children books that I have to go through to weed out the crazy shit. I'm embarrassed and ashamed to tell this story, but my eldest boy toasted the end of the world in front of my atheist parents during their last visit before supper. The reaction he got sent him into tears. I, of course, comforted him. I teach my children that there is no hell, but then he clings to the return of Christ when this loving God comes back to destroy the Earth?
It's all complete and utter bullshit. But I'm so f'ing scared to denounce it for my children's sake. I am programmed to not say anything bad about Christ. I literally can't... and I've even tried. I can even tell you honestly that I love Christ (seriously, no joke). But when I look at these things critically, there's nothing left for me to hold on to.
Church has been so good for my wife and children, though. I'm afraid of what my wife will think of me. I'm afraid I would be taking something good away from them if I am openly agnostic. I'm not incredibly smart or anything, but they look to me for standards of goodness.
If I go to the clergy with these thoughts, I'm afraid I'm only going to get more of the same. That's why I'm posting here. I could use a little unbiased encouragement, maybe, from someone who has been through the same thing.
I have been an atheist for two years now. Prior to that I was agnostic while I was making my transition from christianity to atheism. I struggled with the concept of hell for awhile while making my transition to atheism. It is very hard to let go of that fear when you have been brainwashed for so long. Elaine Pagels book, Origin of Satan, is a good place to start. It is helpful to see where these myths came from and how they manifested into what they currently are re: hell and Satan. I would also recommend Bart Ehrman's book The Bible: A Historical and Literary Introduction. People from biblical times used to believe that the sun past through the underworld (i.e. hell). This is the mindset of the people you are dealing with in terms of mythos.