I remember suddenly a quote from the Rachael Maddow Show where she's interviewing a "doctor" who claims to be able to "cure the gay", his name escapes me:
Cure-the-gay-guy: "You're taking it out of context"
Maddow: "No, I'm reading your book, dude."
Seriously, I'm reading your book. You're reading things that aren't there. There's a logical fallacy at work here called "Ad hoc hypothesis". I won't belabor any of your points except for one that interested me:
1. Why list rivers in the story of Genesis? (See Gen 2:10-14) You don't put an allegorical event on the map. Why discuss geneology to Noah (Gen chapter 5)? These are the kinds of details you don't go into when the entire story is meant to be taken as allegory.
2. Yahweh told Moses that he'd created the universe in six literal days (Ex. 20:11).
3. The Bible lists the genealogy of Jesus and traces it back to Adam (Luke 3:38).
4. Paul believed in a literal Adam (Rom 5:12-14). Jesus seems to as well, though he doesn't call Adam by name (Mark 10:6).
...and my favorite...
5. If Adam and Eve never existed, how'd "the fall" happen then?
Cure-the-gay-guy: "You're taking it out of context"
Maddow: "No, I'm reading your book, dude."
Seriously, I'm reading your book. You're reading things that aren't there. There's a logical fallacy at work here called "Ad hoc hypothesis". I won't belabor any of your points except for one that interested me:
(October 6, 2010 at 4:38 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The whole of the Adam and Eve story is allegorical. Adam and Eve never existed.
1. Why list rivers in the story of Genesis? (See Gen 2:10-14) You don't put an allegorical event on the map. Why discuss geneology to Noah (Gen chapter 5)? These are the kinds of details you don't go into when the entire story is meant to be taken as allegory.
2. Yahweh told Moses that he'd created the universe in six literal days (Ex. 20:11).
3. The Bible lists the genealogy of Jesus and traces it back to Adam (Luke 3:38).
4. Paul believed in a literal Adam (Rom 5:12-14). Jesus seems to as well, though he doesn't call Adam by name (Mark 10:6).
...and my favorite...
5. If Adam and Eve never existed, how'd "the fall" happen then?
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist