(July 5, 2015 at 7:45 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:He is all knowing. The fact that we are part evil isn't due to God directly, but whom was chosen to teach us knowledge. These beings had reached there apex. They knew we too would reach it easily if only taught the things God intended. There were jealous of this and taught is sin in hoes that we wouldn't attain there height.(July 5, 2015 at 7:43 pm)Metis Wrote: Exactly. If God as described in traditional theologies is all knowing, he can't be all good because he's designed people explicitly for eternal torment in hell.Wait you understood that response? What the hell was he saying?
If he is all good then he can't be all knowing, because what good guy would create something knowing it would exist solely to be tortured forever and ever?
This isn't actually an atheist argument, but a very popular liberal Christian one. They use it not to show that God doesn't exist, but that the popular conception of him logically has to be mistaken.
(July 5, 2015 at 7:38 pm)Metis Wrote:(July 5, 2015 at 7:34 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: How does that contradict anything? Really just curious.
If God already knows everything, then he would know how all his plans would turn out long in advance. There would be no need for a Plan B because Plan A would always obtain the desired effect.
