(July 9, 2015 at 10:00 am)loganonekenobi Wrote:(July 1, 2015 at 9:51 am)Drich Wrote: -Or maybe the supreme court decision is apart of humanity's decent into the level of iniquity needed for God to say ENOUGH! and trigger all the wonderful things nope posted in her thread about the last days. That way all you people who want proof will simply have to look out their windows or on their TV's to see God's wrath being poured out onto humanity via the 4 horsemen as described by the book of Revelation.
After all that would answer the Prayer "Your will be done on earth and it is in Heaven" a prayer we 'christians' are all supposed to be praying from the time of Christ Himself.
I wonder what form God's wrath will come in. A Meteor, a super volcano, climate change? When ever something bad happened to the weather or geology man has said "it's God's wrath we are sinning too much." then we as humans survived and went on. Countless examples of natural (and man made) disasters abound that even in the wake of scientific explanation was used to site God's displeasure. So God's wrath will have to be more than something that is naturaly explained. Now if a dude in robes comes down with no obvious way of flying and just starts blasting the world with his mind or what ever then you might see me start praying. Until then we can predict our own world end in at least a dozen different scenarios. No supernatural stuff needed. No amount of homosexuality will change when the meteor or super volcano will hit. Now our own actions and greed may kill us in other disasters that we CAN prevent. We should focus on that.
(July 3, 2015 at 2:59 pm)Lek Wrote: And let's not forgot those great atheists of the 20th and 21st centuries : Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Kim Jong-il and Kim Jong-un, along with many other loving atheists who were responsible for way more slaughter of innocents than any christians of the time. I suggest you get off your high horse and stop preaching hate and defaming billions of decent christians.
These are people who took the marxis philosophy about religion. However, the reason (for them) was so that they didn't have to share power. I am no fan of mass murder (not even christians) but one thing is for certain they did not do this in the name of athiesm. NO they did that to promote thier own power. the philosophy of the secular was to think for themselves wich was something that these people did not want. So these men do not represnt athiesm in esence but in the bible it clearly states that non believers should be killed, shunned, and in general be treated negativly. there is no such doctrine for the athiest. This is a common poke from the religious to the non religious but from what I've seen having or not having a god only brings about better behavior about 10% of the time (yeah there was a study). If you are going to be evil then god or not you will be.
Why would God's wrath need to come in a form that can't naturally be explained?
How does our ablity to identify the tool of God's wrath make it any less from God? God is the God of the natural universe so why is He somehow omitted from using the things He put into existence for His purposes?
Or should I re phrase, Why/how does your personally antiquated idea of How god is supposed to work in the world 'limit' The Alpha and Omega from caring out his will?
