(July 9, 2015 at 2:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote:(July 9, 2015 at 2:26 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: If there is an objective wrong then there is a right and wrong outside of ourselves a moral law and that was established by God outside of humanity. He has the authority to enforce this law and has put that law inside of humans.
Or there is only a subjective right and wrong which means there is no right and wrong and therefor your case against God is pointless in fact your case against any act you see as wrong is pointless and you are working yourself up for nothing.
Does your meaning change when you feel down on yourself or rise when you do what you like? If you never achieve your goals in life or they crumble in front of you are you then a worthless person?
I don't give myself worth and meaning God does. You act like I just decided one day that I would be a Christian after surveying all the options. Or that just because my parents were or I grew up in a semi-Christian country I became one. I meet God and believed what He said about Himself. There hasn't been a day that He has left me or hasn't done what He has said that He would do.
What god says is right and wrong is as subjective as anything else. I already mentioned how there are some people you can kill, and some people you're not supposed to. So ending someone's life is not objectively wrong. You can be killed for picking up sticks on the wrong day of the week, but if you rape an unbetrothed and unmarried girl outside of ton you just pay a fine. These rules are entirely based on the whim of someone, which makes it subjective. You just refuse to listen. I don't know how to make my point any more clear that just because morality is subjective, it doesn't mean we have no basis on how to function as a society.
The meaning I give in life should keep me from getting down for long. If I achieve my goal, or it becomes unattainable, I give my life a new meaning. It's a process. One of the meanings in my life was to grow up, get a job, and move out. I have accomplished that goal. Now it is to maintain my existence while still finding time to enjoy myself. maybe make improvements on my life in some ways. I know people have made this out to be a complicated thing, but I think the problem is because they're trying to find the One True Meaning. I just simplify it.
You may or may not have been raised christian. after you got older, you decided to remain that way. It is your choice of what to do with your life, whether you follow religion or not. Hopefully no one is holding you back, or threatening harm, if you decided to leave. I know christians can be rather violent towards people who leave the faith sometimes. You believe you found god, and decided to worship him. That's your choice. It's just not mine.
Your are right everything is subject to God because His very existence creates absolute truths.
Since there is absolute moral truth that isn't subject to man how does your world view account for that?
Since you have admitted there is a wrong way to live that is not subject to humans. Then there must be a right way to live that is not subject to humans so how do you know that you are living is the right way?
