(July 10, 2015 at 9:27 am)Rekeisha Wrote:(July 9, 2015 at 2:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote: What god says is right and wrong is as subjective as anything else. I already mentioned how there are some people you can kill, and some people you're not supposed to. So ending someone's life is not objectively wrong. You can be killed for picking up sticks on the wrong day of the week, but if you rape an unbetrothed and unmarried girl outside of ton you just pay a fine. These rules are entirely based on the whim of someone, which makes it subjective. You just refuse to listen. I don't know how to make my point any more clear that just because morality is subjective, it doesn't mean we have no basis on how to function as a society.
The meaning I give in life should keep me from getting down for long. If I achieve my goal, or it becomes unattainable, I give my life a new meaning. It's a process. One of the meanings in my life was to grow up, get a job, and move out. I have accomplished that goal. Now it is to maintain my existence while still finding time to enjoy myself. maybe make improvements on my life in some ways. I know people have made this out to be a complicated thing, but I think the problem is because they're trying to find the One True Meaning. I just simplify it.
You may or may not have been raised christian. after you got older, you decided to remain that way. It is your choice of what to do with your life, whether you follow religion or not. Hopefully no one is holding you back, or threatening harm, if you decided to leave. I know christians can be rather violent towards people who leave the faith sometimes. You believe you found god, and decided to worship him. That's your choice. It's just not mine.
Your are right everything is subject to God because His very existence creates absolute truths.
Since there is absolute moral truth that isn't subject to man how does your world view account for that?
Since you have admitted there is a wrong way to live that is not subject to humans. Then there must be a right way to live that is not subject to humans so how do you know that you are living is the right way?
That is not what I said. What I'm saying is that if morals come from someone, be they man or god, it is subjective. That is what subjective means. If it was objective, it would be separate from god, and he wouldn't be correct by default.
I don't account for absolute moral truth, because I don't believe it exists. I don't believe that homosexuality is an abomination, or that slavery, rape, genocide, and human sacrifice is ok within certain restrictions just because I read it in a book. Or that thoughts equal actions, and that killing an innocent person can absolve the guilty of their crimes, or that infinite punishment for finite crimes is a just system, just because I read it in a book.
I can do some research into objective data, that can influence my subjective morality, so I have a more clear idea of how I should live. I have already gone over this. I don't know how to be more clear to you.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html