(July 11, 2015 at 8:57 am)Dystopia Wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL - Dawkins is known most of all by being an atheist and writing books like The God Delusion, and only then as a scientist. He has a book called The God Delusion, he gets lectures to criticize religion, he has tweets criticizng religion. he is invited for debates to criticize religion - It seems obvious what makes him famous, am I right.
My problem - They promote groupthinking as much as any other person or group and some atheists seem them as being always right and that's a very dangerous idea. I listened to them, I have read The God Delusion - I don't get the big deal about it, I was expecting something more rational and intellectually sophisticated. It's terrible to think A+ is a bad group and suddenly Richard Dawkins' following cult is ok because Dawkins is different. I have no issue with any of them as people, and some points are good, but for the most part I was expecting more. Someone like Freud who actually studied religion and knew how to criticize it made more contributions against religion on a paper than Dawkins in a lifetime
You're wrong. Dawkins is more famous for being an educator since he's been doing it for decades.He only wrote the God Delusion in 2006. He is famous for it too, and he is widely regarded as the most famous atheist in the world, but that is not a bad thing, nor does it say anything about him as an author. He should be praised for helping more people reject religion but not much more than that, in the "atheist" department - nor is anyone thinking otherwise, I don't think.
Anyway, we don't measure people for what they're famous for, but for their actual contributions. Dawkins is a pretty smart man, he contributed some as a biologist and is a well established scientist. His opinion is not to be simply swept under the rug, just because you're going through a phase now.
I haven't read Dawkins much though(not at all, actually). I only know of him through second sources and through waching many videos with him either debating, talking, being interviewed or taking interviews, etc. So I wouldn't stick my hand in the fire for him. But your presumptions are still wrong - I'm fairly sure about that.
As for Harris, I'm pretty fucking sure you're wrong there. Before telling us we should forget about him, maybe you should try refuting everything he ever said or wrote in print. Go ahead, I'll be waiting.
