Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote.

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Poll: Overpopulation is a serious problem and you get to cast the deciding vote. Which do you choose? This poll is closed.
It is more important that people can decide how many children they want to have, than that they can have enough food to eat. So I vote that there will be no forced restrictions on having children, and so millions of people will starve to death.	36.00%	9	36.00%
It is more important that people do not starve to death, than that they have the freedom to reproduce at will. So I vote that there will be forced restrictions on having children, and so people will be forcibly made sterile once they have children.	64.00%	16	64.00%
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Pyrrho Offline

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RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote.

July 11, 2015 at 1:00 pm

(July 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote: In both cases, there is a violation of the integrity of the body of someone against their will.

No. If someone wants to not vaccinate their kids they have that choice as long as they keep them out of public schools. It is a choice not a violation. Choices do have consequences.

In order to be allowed to keep their children out of public schools, they must do some other things. They cannot just keep them out of school, but must meet the schooling requirements for their children in some way or other. So there is indeed force in the situation, though you are right that there is a way for them to not have their children vaccinated.

The same, though, applies to my hypothetical situation. You do not have to be forcibly made sterile; if you choose to not have children, no one forces the sterilization on you.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."

— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.

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Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 9:21 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 10, 2015 at 9:39 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by dyresand - July 10, 2015 at 9:46 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 10:05 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Ashground - July 10, 2015 at 9:45 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 10:08 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Dystopia - July 10, 2015 at 9:49 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 10:43 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Dystopia - July 11, 2015 at 8:27 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by IATIA - July 11, 2015 at 3:30 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Tiberius - July 10, 2015 at 9:53 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Cinjin - July 11, 2015 at 2:17 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 11:46 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 10, 2015 at 10:06 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Jackalope - July 10, 2015 at 10:12 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 10:50 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Anomalocaris - July 11, 2015 at 10:24 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Jackalope - July 11, 2015 at 2:49 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Anomalocaris - July 11, 2015 at 3:57 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Whateverist - July 10, 2015 at 10:17 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 11:28 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Cato - July 10, 2015 at 10:52 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Exian - July 10, 2015 at 11:25 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 11:44 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Exian - July 10, 2015 at 11:47 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 11:57 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 1:47 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 11:38 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 12:13 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 12:57 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 1:13 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 2:00 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Ravenshire - July 11, 2015 at 9:28 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 9:33 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Exian - July 10, 2015 at 11:52 pm

Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by KUSA - July 11, 2015 at 1:33 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 2:33 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Anomalocaris - July 11, 2015 at 10:27 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 1:04 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 1:24 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 2:42 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 3:30 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 12:05 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by robvalue - July 11, 2015 at 2:46 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by robvalue - July 11, 2015 at 2:49 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 2:09 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Longhorn - July 11, 2015 at 5:26 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 12:07 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 1:11 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 2:59 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 3:25 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 4:26 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 5:02 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 6:05 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by IATIA - July 11, 2015 at 6:11 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 6:18 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by IATIA - July 11, 2015 at 6:45 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 8:12 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 10:18 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 11:27 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2015 at 4:16 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 12, 2015 at 4:51 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2015 at 4:54 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 6:35 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 7:00 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 7:10 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 1:00 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 3:27 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 1:08 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Aoi Magi - July 11, 2015 at 1:37 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by rado84 - July 11, 2015 at 2:07 pm

Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by KUSA - July 11, 2015 at 3:22 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 6:28 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 6:40 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 6:56 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 7:04 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 7:11 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 7:13 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 7:17 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 7:34 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 7:18 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 7:36 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 9:41 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 7:51 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 7:07 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 7:46 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by IATIA - July 11, 2015 at 8:02 pm

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RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Regina - July 11, 2015 at 3:54 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by IATIA - July 11, 2015 at 3:57 pm

Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by KUSA - July 11, 2015 at 7:19 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by The Grand Nudger - July 11, 2015 at 7:32 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 11, 2015 at 7:35 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 7:51 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by The Grand Nudger - July 11, 2015 at 9:45 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 9:51 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 11:57 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2015 at 4:52 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Clueless Morgan - July 11, 2015 at 10:22 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Whateverist - July 11, 2015 at 11:30 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 11:44 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 12, 2015 at 5:01 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2015 at 9:25 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2015 at 8:23 am

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RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Clueless Morgan - July 12, 2015 at 4:36 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 12, 2015 at 5:51 pm

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