Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote.

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Poll: Overpopulation is a serious problem and you get to cast the deciding vote. Which do you choose? This poll is closed.
It is more important that people can decide how many children they want to have, than that they can have enough food to eat. So I vote that there will be no forced restrictions on having children, and so millions of people will starve to death.	36.00%	9	36.00%
It is more important that people do not starve to death, than that they have the freedom to reproduce at will. So I vote that there will be forced restrictions on having children, and so people will be forcibly made sterile once they have children.	64.00%	16	64.00%
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Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote.

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RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote.

July 11, 2015 at 2:42 pm (This post was last modified: July 11, 2015 at 2:50 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)

(July 11, 2015 at 1:24 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:
(July 11, 2015 at 1:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: ... It is not based on death of the individual, but on species extinction, and the reason that this is an important nuance is because the argument in favor of forced birth-control for humans is not based on the preservation of individual lives, but on the species as a whole. ...

No. If millions of people starve to death, that does not necessarily entail the extinction of the humanity. The choice is between millions of people starving, and between people being forcibly made sterile.

I find it hard to swallow any justification of the actual dehumanizing of people based on hypothetical fears of mass starvation or other results of overpopulation.

Mind you, I'm not saying overpopulation is not dangerous. I'm saying that I would vote "no" in the OP scenario because I think there are other, more humane ways to address the issue.

My apologies for extending it to species extinction. That clearly wasn't in there, and was me inserting my own reading. I'll be more careful next time.

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Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 9:21 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 10, 2015 at 9:39 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by dyresand - July 10, 2015 at 9:46 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 10:05 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Ashground - July 10, 2015 at 9:45 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 10:08 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Dystopia - July 10, 2015 at 9:49 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 10:43 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Dystopia - July 11, 2015 at 8:27 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by IATIA - July 11, 2015 at 3:30 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Tiberius - July 10, 2015 at 9:53 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Cinjin - July 11, 2015 at 2:17 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 11:46 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 10, 2015 at 10:06 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Jackalope - July 10, 2015 at 10:12 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 10:50 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Anomalocaris - July 11, 2015 at 10:24 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Jackalope - July 11, 2015 at 2:49 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Anomalocaris - July 11, 2015 at 3:57 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Whateverist - July 10, 2015 at 10:17 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 11:28 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Cato - July 10, 2015 at 10:52 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Exian - July 10, 2015 at 11:25 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 11:44 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Exian - July 10, 2015 at 11:47 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 10, 2015 at 11:57 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 1:47 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 11:38 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 12:13 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 12:57 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 1:13 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 2:00 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Ravenshire - July 11, 2015 at 9:28 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 9:33 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Exian - July 10, 2015 at 11:52 pm

Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by KUSA - July 11, 2015 at 1:33 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 2:33 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Anomalocaris - July 11, 2015 at 10:27 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 1:04 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 1:24 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 2:42 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 3:30 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 12:05 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by robvalue - July 11, 2015 at 2:46 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by robvalue - July 11, 2015 at 2:49 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 2:09 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Longhorn - July 11, 2015 at 5:26 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 12:07 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 1:11 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 2:59 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 3:25 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 4:26 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 5:02 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 6:05 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by IATIA - July 11, 2015 at 6:11 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 6:18 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by IATIA - July 11, 2015 at 6:45 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 8:12 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 10:18 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 11:27 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2015 at 4:16 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 12, 2015 at 4:51 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2015 at 4:54 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 6:35 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 7:00 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 7:10 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 1:00 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 3:27 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 1:08 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Aoi Magi - July 11, 2015 at 1:37 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by rado84 - July 11, 2015 at 2:07 pm

Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by KUSA - July 11, 2015 at 3:22 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 6:28 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 6:40 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 6:56 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 7:04 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 7:11 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 7:13 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Pyrrho - July 11, 2015 at 7:17 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 7:34 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 7:18 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 7:36 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 9:41 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 7:51 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 7:07 pm

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RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by IATIA - July 11, 2015 at 8:02 pm

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Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by KUSA - July 11, 2015 at 7:19 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by The Grand Nudger - July 11, 2015 at 7:32 pm

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RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Minimalist - July 11, 2015 at 7:51 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by The Grand Nudger - July 11, 2015 at 9:45 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Catholic_Lady - July 11, 2015 at 9:51 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 11, 2015 at 11:57 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2015 at 4:52 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Clueless Morgan - July 11, 2015 at 10:22 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Whateverist - July 11, 2015 at 11:30 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 11, 2015 at 11:44 pm

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Excited Penguin - July 12, 2015 at 5:01 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 12, 2015 at 9:25 am

RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by The Grand Nudger - July 12, 2015 at 8:23 am

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RE: Overpopulation: You get to cast the deciding vote. - by Clueless Morgan - July 12, 2015 at 4:36 pm

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