The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work

[Redbeard The Pink]

So let me drill down a little further. If you don't start with God (who is the source of all life, knowledge and reason)

According to what? How do you know that? What evidence is there that god is the source for these things?

how do you account for logic, knowledge, and uniformity because in your world-view (if you are being honest) humans are just stuff.

Right...and so is everything else. Uniformity arises from the fact that everything in the universe is made of more or less the same "stuff," and the fact that this "stuff" is acted on by forces that perform with absolute consistency, allowing us to build predictive models based on what we know of how those things interact with each other. This is potentially the most basic and arguably the only reason science works. 

Order can arise from disorder because the particles in the universe aren't just whizzing around randomly waiting to bounce into each other. They're attracted to each other by forces like electricity, magnetism, and gravity, and these forces draw particles of matter together until systems of varying complexity come into being. There is no evidence to suggest that a conscious being is needed to start or maintain anything of these processes, or anything else we've discovered in the universe, for that matter.

Again you still can't honestly claim there is anything that is wrong or right or anything positive or negative. In your world view things just are there is nothing that we as people ought to do because we are just stuff.

In the objective sense, yes. Right and wrong are not created by absolute rules of the universe. Only reality seems to be created by the absolute rules of the universe, and the objective reality is that humans have evolved to be social, cooperative creatures to one degree or another, and the evidence suggests that the more we tend toward those traits and away from traits like violence and bigotry, the more successful, happy, and healthy we tend to be as a species. Morality arises both from the knowledge of suffering and the evolved human trait of empathy, which allows us to think about things from another being's perspective.

This is what allows us to establish the closest thing humans have to objective morality: the Golden Rule. You know you don't like to suffer and want to be treated with kindness, and would consider it wrong of someone to treat you in a way that is not in accordance with your wishes; would they then not logically feel the same way about how they wish to be treated, and would you not be wrong by your own standards to add to their suffering or treat them unkindly? "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is perhaps one of the only morally praiseworthy parts of the bible, and they stole that shit. That rule predates the bible by THOUSANDS of years.

God is pure in the sense that He is moral pure. There is no mixture of evil in Him . God being all good wants to restore us since we have been corrupted and are broken in all areas of our lives. He has taken great pains and sacrifice (on the cross) in order to help you understand that He understands and loves you.  He knows what hurts you have and your needs and wants to give you a life that is abundant pure and clean. There is a full life in Jesus but you must first repent and seek forgiveness of your sins. Once He is Lord and Saviour of your life that is when you have the power through the Holy Spirit to live a life that is truly right and good.

God is not morally pure. He is morally hypocritical. He demands one standard of behavior from his subjects while doing the exact opposite himself. Furthermore, he routinely commits and/or encourages genocide, rape, infanticide, murder...the list goes on. He makes exceptions to his own rules, he fucks with free will constantly, and he repeatedly acts with rage, jealousy, and vengeance toward the things he created, yet forbids us to do those things to each other (because vengeance "belongs" to him or some such bullshit...just the christian version of Karma).

Jesus is not the key to a pure life. Christians lead more or less the same lives non-christians do, in the Western World, at least. The only real difference is that christians feel somehow less accountable for the morally reprehensible shit they do, whereas non-theists have to face their actions and own their responsibility. Theists routinely accuse atheists of wanting to dodge responsibility for their actions, but it's actually the other way around. That's what heaven is really about...not being punished for being an asshole.