RE: Opinion on this Creed
July 16, 2015 at 9:32 pm
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2015 at 9:35 pm by Mudhammam.)
Creed
We believe in Marx, Freud and Darwin - "We"? I believe they were human beings who were born in the 19th century. Darwin's ideas were revolutionary for their simplicity, clarity, and rigorous methodology; they have stood the test of time incredibly well. Marx was a fierce critic of capitalism/industrialism, and many of his attacks are undeniably valid. With regards to the solutions he proposed though, I can't say I support most of them. Not too acquainted with Freud, but I get the impression that many of his theories were a bit too naive and simplistic.
We believe everything is OK -
as long as you don't hurt anyone,
to the best of your definition of hurt,
and to the best of your knowledge. No, because while intentions do matter, so do consequences.
We believe in sex before, during, and after marriage. Sure, sex is fun.
We believe in the therapy of sin. Never heard of that technique. Is it for sex? Because that makes it sound delicious.
We believe that adultery is fun. For whom?
We believe that sodomy is OK. I can't speak from experience but whatever you and your partner agree upon, for sexual pleasure, is certainly OK with me, seeing as it is none of my business.
We believe that taboos are taboo. That would be the meaning of the word, yes?
We believe that everything is getting better
despite evidence to the contrary. Well, if the evidence is to the contrary, then why would we believe that?
The evidence must be investigated
And you can prove anything with evidence. Evidence sure helps, but it must be interpreted correctly, of course.
We believe there's something in
horoscopes, UFO's and bent spoons; LMAO. No. "We" skeptical folk (that's who we is meant to imply, yes?) do not typically give credence to miracle-workers and jugglers.
Jesus was a good man
just like Buddha, Mohammed, and ourselves. Never met any of them, and unfortunately, the narratives about their lives are least concerned with their actual lives.
He was a good moral teacher
although we think His good morals were bad. What does it mean to say that something which is good was bad?
We believe that all religions are basically the same--
at least the one that we read was. Hardly.
They all believe in love and goodness. Hardly.
They only differ on matters of
creation, sin, heaven, hell, God, and salvation. "Only"! LOL. I'd say there's a few more things they probably disagree on.
We believe that after death comes the Nothing
Because when you ask the dead what happens they say nothing. Well, that's what a child would probably think, and I'd tell him that he's on the right track before giving him a pat on the head and a Snickers bar.
If death is not the end, if the dead have lied,
then it's compulsory heaven for all
excepting perhaps Hitler, Stalin, and Genghis Khan. Huh?
We believe in Masters and Johnson. Can't say one way or another.
What's selected is average.
What's average is normal.
What's normal is good. No comment.
We believe in total disarmament. No.
We believe there are direct links between warfare and bloodshed. Duh.
Americans should beat their guns into tractors
and the Russians would be sure to follow. Probably not.
We believe that man is essentially good. Depends on what we are evaluating in man. We're good at some things. Pretty terrible at others.
It's only his behavior that lets him down.
This is the fault of society.
Society is the fault of conditions.
Conditions are the fault of society. No comment.
We believe that each man must find the truth that is right for him. I'd prefer each found the truth that is right. But yes, it must accord with each person's ability to recognize and accept the truth, and who's to say how far anyone has yet to go?
Reality will adapt accordingly. Sure.
The universe will readjust. It's always in flux, as Heraclitus taught.
History will alter. That's inevitable.
We believe that there is no absolute truth
excepting the truth that there is no absolute truth. That makes no sense.
We believe in the rejection of creeds,
and the flowering of individual thought. Amen.
"Chance" a post-script
If chance be the Father of all flesh,
disaster is his rainbow in the sky,
and when you hear
State of Emergency!
Sniper Kills Ten!
Troops on Rampage!
Whites go Looting!
Bomb Blasts School!
It is but the sound of man worshiping his maker.
That shit was weak.
We believe in Marx, Freud and Darwin - "We"? I believe they were human beings who were born in the 19th century. Darwin's ideas were revolutionary for their simplicity, clarity, and rigorous methodology; they have stood the test of time incredibly well. Marx was a fierce critic of capitalism/industrialism, and many of his attacks are undeniably valid. With regards to the solutions he proposed though, I can't say I support most of them. Not too acquainted with Freud, but I get the impression that many of his theories were a bit too naive and simplistic.
We believe everything is OK -
as long as you don't hurt anyone,
to the best of your definition of hurt,
and to the best of your knowledge. No, because while intentions do matter, so do consequences.
We believe in sex before, during, and after marriage. Sure, sex is fun.
We believe in the therapy of sin. Never heard of that technique. Is it for sex? Because that makes it sound delicious.
We believe that adultery is fun. For whom?
We believe that sodomy is OK. I can't speak from experience but whatever you and your partner agree upon, for sexual pleasure, is certainly OK with me, seeing as it is none of my business.
We believe that taboos are taboo. That would be the meaning of the word, yes?
We believe that everything is getting better
despite evidence to the contrary. Well, if the evidence is to the contrary, then why would we believe that?
The evidence must be investigated
And you can prove anything with evidence. Evidence sure helps, but it must be interpreted correctly, of course.
We believe there's something in
horoscopes, UFO's and bent spoons; LMAO. No. "We" skeptical folk (that's who we is meant to imply, yes?) do not typically give credence to miracle-workers and jugglers.
Jesus was a good man
just like Buddha, Mohammed, and ourselves. Never met any of them, and unfortunately, the narratives about their lives are least concerned with their actual lives.
He was a good moral teacher
although we think His good morals were bad. What does it mean to say that something which is good was bad?
We believe that all religions are basically the same--
at least the one that we read was. Hardly.
They all believe in love and goodness. Hardly.
They only differ on matters of
creation, sin, heaven, hell, God, and salvation. "Only"! LOL. I'd say there's a few more things they probably disagree on.
We believe that after death comes the Nothing
Because when you ask the dead what happens they say nothing. Well, that's what a child would probably think, and I'd tell him that he's on the right track before giving him a pat on the head and a Snickers bar.
If death is not the end, if the dead have lied,
then it's compulsory heaven for all
excepting perhaps Hitler, Stalin, and Genghis Khan. Huh?
We believe in Masters and Johnson. Can't say one way or another.
What's selected is average.
What's average is normal.
What's normal is good. No comment.
We believe in total disarmament. No.
We believe there are direct links between warfare and bloodshed. Duh.
Americans should beat their guns into tractors
and the Russians would be sure to follow. Probably not.
We believe that man is essentially good. Depends on what we are evaluating in man. We're good at some things. Pretty terrible at others.
It's only his behavior that lets him down.
This is the fault of society.
Society is the fault of conditions.
Conditions are the fault of society. No comment.
We believe that each man must find the truth that is right for him. I'd prefer each found the truth that is right. But yes, it must accord with each person's ability to recognize and accept the truth, and who's to say how far anyone has yet to go?
Reality will adapt accordingly. Sure.
The universe will readjust. It's always in flux, as Heraclitus taught.
History will alter. That's inevitable.
We believe that there is no absolute truth
excepting the truth that there is no absolute truth. That makes no sense.
We believe in the rejection of creeds,
and the flowering of individual thought. Amen.
"Chance" a post-script
If chance be the Father of all flesh,
disaster is his rainbow in the sky,
and when you hear
State of Emergency!
Sniper Kills Ten!
Troops on Rampage!
Whites go Looting!
Bomb Blasts School!
It is but the sound of man worshiping his maker.
That shit was weak.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
