(July 16, 2015 at 5:39 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(July 16, 2015 at 5:08 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: I fully agree with your statements. Belief and faith must be based on evidence of reality. My belief is evidence based.
Please open another thread and provide your evidence.
As an open minded person, I am always looking for evidence, and if it is compelling, (demonstrable, verifiable, repeatable and falsifiable), I am willing to alter my views.
But if your evidence is: the Bible, personal experience, Josephus, Pliny, Tacitus, etc or any of the philosophical arguments for the existence of a god (Kalam, ontological, teleological, TAG, Anselm, etc), please spare us.
If you have a presupposition to diametrically oppose a lot of the key arguments then I hardly call that open-minded. I understand you are familiar with a lot of those arguments, and I have used some of those in my defenses before, but for me the very first argument I would use and really the only one I feel I need is an argument from morality, showing that with no ontic referrent the atheistic worldview has no definition of morality, meaning, and no hope but of course this could be viewed as arguing from the negative. If you would like to have a discussion on that, I could open a thread. Just give me some time to put on my flame retardant suit.
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