(July 17, 2015 at 2:57 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Interesting that one of you finds the definitions synonymous and the other does not. If you espouse something as false aren't you proposing the opposite to be true? I've had some atheists tell me that atheism is not a belief system. But you believe it don't you?
(July 17, 2015 at 2:54 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: No, if you mean to say they're are equivalent.
I don't believe there is a god =/= I believe there is no god.
It's the difference in certainty. Most atheistsc will not claim to know there isn't a god, so they will not make claims there isn't one. They will just refuse to accept the claim as true because of lack of evidence.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative...ve_atheism
If you mean to say that both positions are atheism, then yes.
If they make such a claim, they are not atheists, they are agnostic.
Agnostic simply means "I don't know." Atheist simply means without god. Agnostic atheists are simply saying I don't know of god therefore I don't believe in god. I'm also acoldfusionist, it's possible but not here yet. Maybe it won't ever be here. I don't know is a perfectly valid position. So is I don't know, but that sounds really unlikely, please explain. That's my position on god. The idea is highly unlikely. Evidence please?
Agnostics can believe. I really really like the idea of god, so I will make an effort of will (or moral weakness) and believe even though I don't know. Oh, and I'll pray really hard to believe better.
Atheism is not a philosophy, it's a state of mind on a single issue. Skeptism is a philosophy that leads to atheism. I'm a skeptic.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
