(July 17, 2015 at 6:57 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:KevinM1 Wrote:Could it be that the philosophers are wrong with their definitions?
All I know is that I actually loathe philosophy. Had several classes in college, and found them terribly boring. They always seemed to devolve into masturbatory discussions about words, finding distinctions without meaning. An over analysis of things that don't actually matter, in most cases.
To that end, I could really give a shit with what some philosophers say atheism is. I know what I do and don't believe, and if that doesn't fit the term, all that means is that I need to find a new word for it. It says nothing about the veracity of my belief system.
If you actually have a means of demonstrating that all of the philosophical literature is wrong and the atheistic internet community is in fact correct with their revisionist’s definition I will entertain the idea…until then however all I have to go by what is the accepted definition of the term.
You're the one who keeps bringing up philosophers. The burden is on you to demonstrate that they actually know what they're talking about. "Because they're philosophers" won't cut it, by the way. Last I checked, there was no bar to entry to becoming a philosopher.
Of course, if the running definition by the community that has adopted the label means one thing, and public perception of that label means another, it makes little sense to side with public perception over the people who actually claim the label as their own.
Quote:KevinM1 Wrote:Moreover, SW's snide "Why didn't you reference any philosophical works? Could it be that they disagree with you?" is simply an appeal to authority. These guys say you're wrong, so you're wrong. Really? That's the best you can do? By what authority are these philosophers correct? Their own through consensus?You do realize that appealing to authority is only fallacious if the authority is fallable and not properly qualified in the topic right? If you want to argue that the two most prominent encyclopedias of philosophy are not properly qualified authorities on the topic of philosophical terms then good luck. It is definitely a more appropriate authority than anyone else has appealed to on here (i.e. “because I say so!”, and About.com).
Color me unimpressed.
Really? Prove it. What makes these people any more capable of defining atheism than us? Why should their definition be the accepted one?
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