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The questionable morality of Christianity (and Islam, for that matter)
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RE: The questionable morality of Christianity (and Islam, for that matter)
(July 20, 2015 at 4:11 pm)robvalue Wrote: I can explain, in many different ways, why murder is "wrong". No one can explain to anyone what the fuck Jesus is meant to be or why he matters to anyone. We see the failings here daily.

I'm talking about children below the age of 7, say. Maybe younger still. On the whole, they are going to accept facts without question, especially if they're not given the option of questions. So if you're "teaching" them something you can't rationally defend to anyone else, as a fact rather than a belief, that is indoctrination. If it's something they absolutely must know but can't understand yet, that is the exception. Jesus does not fit this bill. You can later explain about the hot stove. Not so with Jesus.

As early as possible, you should be encouraging them to question, even question the things you tell them. Religion is the opposite.

What the fuck do I know? This is all my opinion, of course.
Human beings are not known for being rational - The percentage of us who can apply rationality and critical thinking to our everyday activities is very very small - The majority of people do lots of irrational things, and even the most rational ones do irrational stuff as well, we all have biases, dogmas and engage in dangerous groupthinking. Requiring people to perform almost impossible standards of rationality for the common peasant is, IMO, asking too much. This isn't about our personal opinions, it's about what is right to put on the law. A Christian would happily say their belief in god is rational, a deist would say the same, an atheist will say not believing is rational - And even if any of those groups could be classified as irrational, there's more to life than being rational, emotions, feelings, happiness, joy - All those things, even when not rational, motivate us to act.

I'm not a parent myself - I disagree with the view that you must question absolutely anything - I've seen the result of my aunt doing that with one of her kids. Do you know what happens? He refuses to do his homework because he wants to "question" the school system, and doesn't like school, and thinks teachers are cunts - Because he was told he could question anything. I think questioning, specially directed at authorities, is something we shouldn't encourage overwhelmingly and just leave it to kids to decide when they grow - I mean, aren't we indoctrinating them to question too much anyway? Tongue
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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RE: The questionable morality of Christianity (and Islam, for that matter) - by Dystopia - July 20, 2015 at 4:25 pm

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