Answered prayer

[Drich]

Firstly Drichy, glad you're ok > despite what some people may occasionally post in jest, I very much doubt that anyone would wish death or injury upon you. I can't say as i've ever heard of an atheist murdering a theist on the grounds of intolerance towards the theist's theism. I understand that in your world of literal prayer and sin cycles, you are convinced that there is some deeper meaning to your terrifying experience (and indeed most things that happen in your life). But, seeing as this IS an atheist forum, and that you've decided to SHARE your experience with us, it is nevertheless our duty to scrutinise your response to even this most earthly of earthbound events.

Ok, i'll duck the patronising undertones to this paragraph and address your straight up hopes and desires. Firstly i've gotta say it would be deeply naive of you to assume that negative things haven't already happened to atheists on this forum. Any randomly selected sample group from the population at large will contain a huge number of people who have experienced loss, ill-health, torment etc. Clearly, challenging circumstances haven't clouded our ability to reason. I recently had bad medical news, ironically concerning the very field of work that I am involved in (albeit at a low level); pathology/genetics. However, because of my understanding of the way the world works, I don't attempt to read meaning in to things that just don't contain meaning. Surely it is painfully obvious even to you that good things happen to bad people, and bad things happen to good people. Clearly, there is no correlation between prayer/good deeds and rewards/punishments in the real world. Robert Mugabe leads a lavish lifestyle whilst many thousands of good christians live in abject poverty. Again, you're convinced that god has decided to make a relatively mediocre life in to something really great (as with you), whilst he refuses to make intolerable lives at least barely endurable. Every time an honest, decent christian dies after months and even years of miserable suffering, a nail is banged in to the coffin of prayer-reward deception. How on earth can you explain why god makes your life better, when tens of thousands of decent people who did exactly as you did (prayed and followed scripture to the T) appear to be rewarded with cholera, diptheria, rape, torture and mutilation? We're talking women and children here too, the victims of war crimes etc. Even if you believe it was worth it to receive reward in an afterlife, why in the here and now are you prioritised whilst people live in relatively worse conditions than those you experienced even at the hardest times in your life? Not to take anything away from your strife, trust me i've been there, but with the benefit of hindsight my worst times still couldn't have compared to being gang-raped and battered on a daily basis, enduring mental and physical anguish on an insurmountable level. How could you be so naive as to believe that god's selection criteria make any sense at all? Clearly, god does not answer prayers with any rational consistency, and indeed, probably doesn't exist at all.

What have I said here or any place else that makes you believe that I believe that any of this is true? I have NEVER EVER Said living for God affords you onlly the good things in life or an easy life of any kind. Like wise I never said living without God places a curse on your life.

As I have already admitted a couple of different times now that you guys praying for my death was a joke. Do you seriously believe God would kill me to sell you a misplaced faith?

Ironically, the poorest part of the planet - Africa, is experiencing the worst AIDS epidemic conceivable, worse than on any other continent. Why on earth would you wish a progressive and terminal illness on someone in the hope that it would help them find god?

Because sometimes that what it takes

Do I even need to point out the glaringly obvious fact that many christians, who endure the most impoverished conditions imaginable, already suffer from AIDS, and Cholera, and Diptheria, and Nodding fever, and any number of miserable illnesses that kill people in their millions. Many of these ailments are easily treatable in the developed world, but such is the misery of the third world that something as straight forward as a stomach bug or the flu can be fatal. How can you wish such awful awful things on people, when there are already christians (that's right, people who already found god) afflicted with such dire misery who aren't being elevated to even a barely tolerable standard of living, HERE, IN THE REAL WORLD?

If they have those diseases then why would you think I'd pray that they get them? I was offering to pray for anyone looking to find God the same prayer i prayed, in that may God afflict or give you what ever it took for you to find him. Most of you want to focous on AIDS because that was my path. But yours maybe a winning lottery ticket, who knows. What I was illustrating was one has to be open and willing to follow the path God may lead you down, no matter what it takes.

I was simply offering my prayer on your behalf to do whatever it took for you to Find God.

As you read this post, take a guess at how many christian women are being gang-raped and murdered,

1,000,000

take a guess at how many new young men are contracting HIV without even realising it?

945,467.

Good people, who never did anything wrong?

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This isn't so much the folly of christianity, it's why we find views like yours utterly disgusting.

Actually you find views like mine disgusting because of a false sence of pop/culturally based morality affords you. Your judgement is no different than of those who followed a hitler, a moa, stallin, or KKK or anyone else who bases his 'morality' on what the soceity of the time says is acceptiable... I guess me and people like me should be thankful it is not permissiable for pop morality people to hunt christians down again.

Clearly yours is a troubled soul, it has caused you to espouse some morally reprehensible shit, and you should be deeply ashamed of yourself for wishing such horrors on good, decent people (especially when your fellow christians are afflicted with the very same horrors).

what is better to live an undetermined amount of years in affliction and an eternity in bliss? or to live 100 years comfortably and spend eternity in Hell?

I chose the potential for affliction, and I am offering to you what i asked for myself, in order to find God. I prayed whatever it to Oh, Lord, and He took me through Hell and back. If I pray that for you again you may not have to go through hell and back you may wind up going through heaven and back who knows it all depends on how hard your heart is.

I don't pray but I hope that one day you realise that you have dedicated your life to a complete delusion.

and you know this how? Because God is illusive in your life? Did you maybe consider God in your current state wants nothing to do with you, therefore your experiences are really the standard of the universe you think them to be.

Maybe be if you were humble enough to pray or rather Cry out to God oh, Lord do whatever it takes so that I may see you and talk to you, your experience might be a little different than the nothing your use to getting.
Maybe be even have someone pray this prayer for you as well.

Grow up, and realise that car accidents are a mere fact of life and have nothing to do with prayer or sin, and understand this, even at our lowest of lows, we aren't nearly so purile as to wish incurable diseases on gullible buffoons such as you. I left that shite behind on the playground, I suggest you do too.

wow your hate for Christianity and appeal to sterotypes inorder to create this strawman is scarry. I can only imagine how anxious and willing to manipulate/change a story, inorder to justify hunting down those who did not believe as you did if it were acceptiable.

The self righteous (Meaning those who find righteousness or morality apart from God) can literally justify ANYthing. Because ultimatly man's morality is always a search to find the lessor of two evils. All one need do is place a greater evil in the room with the evil he is wanting to justify.