(July 26, 2015 at 3:30 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
Wow. Just wow. We went over this list, too, Randy. In that other thread. And now you're dragging it out here. Fucking brilliant.
So your text sources...I looked them up the last time we were having this exact same argument. They're either Christian sources, some other form of scripture that might have occasion to mention Jesus to provide counter-religion (the Talmud, for instance), a broad interpretation of what's written, or just a straight up forgery (see: Josephus and probably Tacitus). You have NO non-Christian, non-scriptural evidence to support the existence of a human basis for the Jesus of Nazareth character. None that isn't hotly disputed, anyway.
As to your scholars...I am fully aware of the sheer number of mainstream scholars in comparison to Christ Mythicists. There was a time in this world when most "scientists" believed the universe was geo-centric. I do not give a fuck about the mainstream opinion because it is a faulty claim based on a biased interpretation of the evidence at hand. Even atheist scholars are likely to support the idea of the historicity of Jesus on the bias of not wanting to be ostracized by the rest of their academic community. Nevertheless, there are many scholars who stand by the theory of Christ Mythicism, and having heard both interpretations of the evidence in question, the interpretation of the Christ Mythicists seems to me to be the most reasonably sound.
And again, the main fact you keep dodging (and have been dodging all throughout the various pages of this argument) is that regardless of whether it's reasonable to believe that a mortal, Jewish preacher named Yeshua used to exist 2,000 years ago, there is still no reason to believe that he was any more magical than you are (and you, Randy, are not magical; I know because I'm a wizard).
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com